You might be right, in general. But even if you are, there are still millions of women who are attracted to short men (even if they don’t prefer short men, they still might be willing to give one a chance), and men without a lot of money, or men who are overweight, shy, etc.
Basically, the rule here, in my experience, is the same rule as in most of life: be a decent person, and treat people with respect and decency. It may be tough at first, but if you stick to this rule (as well as making an effort with grooming and hygiene), then you will meet some decent women.
I don’t think the original question was genuine, if these ever are. The real question is “If I’m not tall, I’m socially awkward, and have no plans towards financial success, how do I get beautiful, desirable women to bed me?” then, when lovely women don’t fly in to offer themselves to the underdog, he turns and attacks women for daring to have superficial preferences.
How does an ordinary man find love? He loves ordinary women. It really is that simple.
An ordinary man can appeal to an extraordinary woman by becoming extraordinary himself. Honesty, integrity, humility, and sincerity are much more enduring traits than appearance.
Well, yes, that’s what we’ve all been saying all along, and I gave examples of ordinary looking men who have great success with women due to various talents and attitudes. That’s what we believe and experience, but the OP isn’t looking for input, he’s looking to have his own prejudices reinforced.
Since OP is going to continue insist that there is a universal formula that supersedes all charms and efforts, he should devote himself to gaining height, money, and confidence. He doesn’t need our advice or experience to better himself since he has the answers. Plus: monkeys.
Hell, there’s a guy I like…
because of a shared love of fantasy-setting dwarves, Pterry, and general nerd stuff.
Is he pretty?
… let me put it this way: he could’a played Gimli without any camera tricks and just enough makeup to keep his face from looking like it’s the part of the movie that got recorded in black and white But hey, I’m a “talk nerdy to me” kind of gal!
It was genuine. The original question was about increasing my skill with women among other reasons but you are free to read into it any way you want. Yes, because I ask for ideas on attraction obviously means that I expect all women of this message board to come and sleep with me, what other reason could there be? And I wasn’t attacking in the rape jokes or saying female. I honestly felt like it shouldn’t matter and since I felt like saying that then why not?
You’ve been given a host of answers, and continue to revert back to your Big Three. We can give you lists of ordinary looking men, short men, and poor men who are successful in love because of various charms, talents, or genuine ease in the company of women but you seem to be bent on clinging to the observations you’ve gleaned from primate behavior.
Here’s my last bit of advice repeated for the third time: make female friends in order to feel more comfortable and at ease in their presence. You’ll discover that women are people, just like you, and it’s the best favor you can do for yourself and your future loves.
Your name isn’t inspired by the fighter Cung Lee, is it? That guy at least used to be a badass when I saw his fights.
I feel this may be a case of: no matter what I say, I am not going to unconvince you of your ideas about me. I am actually looking for input even if I am pretty convinced there is some sorta blueprint, but I don’t think anything I say will prove my mind to you. I am either lying, deluded, mispercieved something or right, in all cases it may be I would say the same thing, so I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
And yes, monkeys.
** Oh yeah, to the people reading this thread - I realize that “some documentary” may have sounded sketchy, it was called “Going Ape” by I believe the National Geographic Channel or Discovery Channel.**
I’m interested in hearing your views on the pick up artist world and why you don’t like it
Bonobo - Playful, fun, confident, nice
Chimp - Overdominant, not really caring about what she is saying, more on the aggressive, contolling
In general, the chimp duders said things like, “you shouldn’t wear that color anymore,” or “you, me, tomorrow night on a date, give me your number” Serious and authoritarian like a businessman is responding to a mere mortal in a “looking down on” way
The bonobos said things like “how are you, whats your name?” taking the time to listen and also joking around.
I find the PUA world pretty disgusting because of the lack of respect and regard for women. Basically, the idea that women may be hurt by them doesn’t seem to matter. It seems like the kind of thing sociopaths do.
Yes we are a unique species, though doesn’t mean in every way that is so.
No reason to feel insulted in my opinion: Man supposedly share over 90 percent of our genes with monkeys so it to me is a logical place to go to understand attraction. Plus procreation is HUGE as far as the survival of our species goes. If we have a pretty automatic reaction to pain, then we are likely to have something to guide us in mate choice as it is HUGE for close to the same reason. Procreation is written into us on the surface with the existence of our genitalia, it makes sense that what we are looking for is written into us too, to a grdater or lesser degree.
Yes, but finding a real monkey can be hard to do, and last time there was an accident when I was teaching the monkey how to give oral.
But hey, I’m a “talk nerdy to me” kind of gal!