Read the OP again, genius.
That’s pretty much what you said in the OP.
No, it isn’t remotely what I said in the OP. I understand perfectly. I just think it’s stupid.
I read it.
I remain unimpressed with your complaint.
I don’t think you do.
You claim that the rolleyes smiley is an insult, but that your attack was not an insult. Even if I did agree with you, you responded to what you perceived as an insult that skirts the rules with an insult you claim is acceptable because it also skirts the rules.
So, either you don’t understand or you’re engaging in exactly the same behavior you deplore in others.
False equivalence. It’s perfectly reasonable to snap someone back after an uncalled-for insult. And I didn’t “skirt the rules”. Read BigT’s post above.
:shrug:
BigT doesn’t make the rules around here, in case you didn’t know.
Next time, try harder.
There is only one valid retort to the dreaded :rolleyes: smiley, and that is to respond in kind but with greater force! Hence! The dreaded double :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
No words will be needed, you have clearly proved your self superior.
That is not a personal insult. It characterizes what you have posted, not you personally. Only personal insults are proscribed outside of the Pit; I am free to characterize the content of your posts any way I wish, except to call them lies.
If you interpret my characterization of your posts as insults, it is your problem not mine.
Neither do you.
Then mine isn’t either. If you take a simple retort as an insult, it’s your problem, not mine.
“…but you can shove your rolleyes up your ass” is certainly a personal insult, unrelated to the content of any post. You were warned for good reason.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
/thread.
No, it’s not, for the reasons already outlined several times in this thread. The trouble is in defining an insult. Is it “calling someone a name”? If so, then my post was no insult. Is it defined by someone taking umbrage? Well, that’s no good as a working definition, since people can take umbrage at a lot of things. Is it defined by the intent of the poster to cause insult? Then my post was no insult. I intended no insult, but merely intended as a “warning shot”. Is it defined by the use of “rough language”? Obviously no good, since such language is used freely and widely on the Dope. Is it defined by the tone of the post? No good, since people write in many different styles.
Or is it, as I suspect is the case, “I know it when I see it”? This is a massively inconsistent definition, which leads to extremely uneven moderation.
The best answer, of course, is to draw the line somewhere (possibly at don’t call each other names outside the Pit), and for anything below that, let the two posters in question hash it out among themselves.
You know, I self-identify as a Liberal, but I wonder if this incessant need to have the mods judge all lapses in civility has anything to do with the Liberal nature of this board. I mean, some of you like to be governed just a little too much.
This would be an excellent reply, except that we’re not discussing useless moralistic truisms.
Just wanted to say that this -
is how I always want to respond to a rolleyes.
Oh, also wanted to say that, “shove your rolleyes up your ass” isn’t actually an insult; it’s a direction (albeit a rude one).
Moderator opinions notwithstanding, I would consider a statement such as
to such a small, insignificant thing as a smiley directed at me to be a crude reaction better suited for the Pit. In fact, I was going to report it myself, but I saw that you had already been warned. I agree with Gary, Czarcasm, and Xash that your warning was merited. Not that my opinion counts in cases like this. If a little smiley bothers you that much, why don’t you take Omniscient to the Pit? It’s what I would have done if I had thin skin. But I don’t. I have learned in my years on the internet how to ignore responses like the eyeroll. I don’t use them myself, but I don’t take them as a personal attack on my honor, my father’s name, my country’s flag or anything else worth defending. I mentally dismiss them, then I move on. I don’t give them more significance than they deserve. You say you didn’t mean a personal insult, but I see crude language and a venting of anger out of proportion to the perceived offense. I would have been more bothered by that than by somebody virtually rolling their eyes at me. IMO you deserved to be warned for this.
It can be both a directive and an insult at the same time.
Ogre, let’s say for a minute that you are taking your mom to a 'Bama game. It’s the Iron Bowl and there is a line at the concession stand. There is some horseplay in line and your mom gets jostled quite a bit. She sighs and rolls her eyes, but doesn’t say anything directly to them. One of the students sees her roll her eyes and says to her, “Shove your rolleyes up your ass.” Would you consider that insulting to your mother?
Please don’t change any of the circumstances of the hypothetical.
And don’t let anyone yank your chain about the SEC. If they are “from away,” they don’t understand.
Finally, you really can choose to leave insults, disagreements, and even lies unchallenged. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don’t.
I haven’t been here very long and not sure how this place works, but I didn’t see Ogre’s comment to be a personal insult. I would even say it wasn’t an insult. Why, because he said a$$? ‘Could’ it cause an escalation? Sure, but so ‘could’ a many number of things.
And you’d better be happy I don’t!
And just in case there is any confusion: I don’t think what Ogre did was right. But I do understand him thinking it wasn’t warnable.