That it probably wasn’t worth my continuing to respond to their nonsense.
They claimed, in a thread discussing whether it was easier to hide in wilderness, small towns, or cities, that state governments in the USA were routinely telling sex offenders to make tent cities “out in the woods”; and mentioned a case in Florida of people winding up living under a bridge in a heavily populated area.
(Thread in IMHO about hiding in western states.)
Caves up in the hills in Utah can’t be beat for that.
While we’re on the topic of Imuseless a sorta kindred spirit MortSahlFan has crawled out from under his rock this morning and graced Café Society with another confused not quite word salad rant about one of his hobby horses. And when somebody else was pointed out that he’d posted previously on the same topic he got defensive.
He can’t seem to understand that some people actually remember what they read here.
I can handle clueless and disorganized. It’s clueless, disorganized, and defensive that torques my jaws.
I bet they’d know all about that (assuming the heavy population is a heavy population of billy goats)
I’ve found him on at least 2 other internet haunts, where he’s as clueless there as he is here.
Wait, what? There are other boards? 
There are. But abject cluelessness doesn’t stand out so much on the other boards as it does here.
So our dregs are their ordinary citizens.
I don’t think that’s really a fair take. If someone posts how you already talked about something in the past, the implication is obviously that they shouldn’t talk about it now. It makes sense that could make someone defensive.
The guy isn’t bring up his hobby horse (which is pretty obvious from his name). He’s posting about being frustrated that he had to throw out some food because he left it out. He didn’t even ask if it was okay to eat, like he did the previous time–he had already thrown it out. So that proves he did remember posting before, and in fact did learn from what he posted last time. So it’s not a case of someone who refuses to listen, either.
Not only does his post seem entirely coherent to me, but I sympathize with his frustration. I don’t leave things out to thaw, but I have left out food that I had to throw away. That is really frustrating when you’re on a low budget.
Maybe I’d feel differently if his defensiveness had hijacked the thread. Or if he had a history of getting upset like that. But, from that thread? I didn’t even think about posting about him here. He’s not being a jerk.
amen!
When I transferred to Japan, I was impressed that they had TWO public broadcasting TV networks: one for educational issues and the other for general stuff. And both networks were (and likely still are) mighty fine.
NPR does exist. Trying to get some people to believe anything they say, or to read/watch it in the first place, is often another matter.
I’m sure it varies across the US but Michigan has a very robust consortium of public radio providers with at least ten licensed public broadcasters across the state.
The problem with that is that it’s not like it is in other countries. The example I gave is for Japan. The national government funds the networks (plural). When I lived in Japan, I was aware of only the two, general and educational. Now they also have three satellite channels and two UHDTV channels. I forgot about the three radio networks. The funding comes from telvision license fees. There’s no fundraising telethons to keep the stations afloat.
Often by following up answers from someone familiar with the subject with “but why/but why not” or “what do you mean by that” posts that reiterate their opening thesis.
I’ve spoken quite a bit with SunTanLotion (PMs and stuff). I can tell you that she asks a lot of questions and she is open to learning things, as most of us are (or I hope we are - I learn crap every day on this board, that’s the main reason I’m here). In all the time I’ve talked to her I never got the impression that she has a mean bone in her body and if she posts anything that’s wrong, it’s not out of maliciousness or pushing an agenda, but just from misinformation. Definitely she has spent time with the wrong kind of people in the real world and I think she’d be the first to admit that.
I always thought that one of the reasons she spends time here is to find an alternative to that kind of nonsense. It takes a great deal of wisdom to recognize when there is bullshit around you and to go out of your way to try to find something that’s not bullshit. So I forgive her if she slips up.
If she’s aggressive about pushing something, I do worry about her, she hasn’t had the easiest time of things of late and might be trying to vent, just in the wrong place and in the wrong way.
You are kind. My mistake was reading a new book from the library called Perceptions of a Renegade mind.
The author writes well, and is interesting but when I got to the part where Covid doesn’t exist, I know for a fact it does.
Former friend maganut had moved a while ago so I don’t communicate with him. I think hes peeved I told him he was crazy.
In case anyone was wondering, no one in my church talks about politics or conspiracies.
Thank you @Atamasama , I get the same impression there’s no meanness or belligerence there.
I wish so so much this board could move away from the attack the difference in people.
Are we not accepting of every individual and their perspective?
I’m willing to bet if you have a real difference of opinion, if you ask that poster they’ll be happy to tell you their side, in detail.
At least you can come to “we agree to disagree”. Without hate speech, bullying and put downs.
It’s so juvenile this bickering and nit picking.
Sometimes I think this is my grandkids playing a board game.
Good natured ribbing and taunting is one thing…it gets too close to the knuckle. You do not know who you’re gonna really hurt.
That’s my 2 cents. Anyway.
ETA…I know the pit is meant for the bad stuff to be expressed. I’ve done a bit myself. But don’t we have enough places online to really rant and see the ugly side of humanity? Seriously.
Of course, if it’s a Troll…all bets are off.
No one will ever tolerate everything or everyone. We all have terrible prejudices and misconceptions. We have life experience that makes us who we are and to believe what we believe.
We’re also adults, not children.
I say if you can’t say it in a mixed crowd in person, Maybe just maybe, check yourself and not say it to a person you know virtually nothing about.
There should be no tolerance for jerkitude for the joy of seeing your horrible words printed or to get brownie points on a message board.
We’re all board friends. If you have a real problem with another poster, talk to them. How hard is that?
I presume you mean talking nicely. But we usually do that—in the thread in question. By the time it makes it to the Pit, it’s because talking nicely isn’t working.
Consider SuntanLotion. People were trying over and over to debunk what they were saying, while pointing out that it sounded very paranoid. But they weren’t listening.
It was only after they wound up in the Pit that they seemed to take notice, and resolved things before it blew up.
Absolutely not. If a perspective is factually wrong or horrible immoral, then we’re not going to accept it. That’s the point of bringing up the paradox of tolerance.
If you tolerate even awful people and awful beliefs, you just chase away the people those beliefs hurt. For example, if we tolerate transphobe’s perspective, we would be saying that trans people are not welcome here.
Plus this board’s foundation was about fighting ignorance. So if you have a perspective that is factually wrong, that isn’t tolerated either.
Now, don’t get me wrong. I do think Dopers sometimes jump the gun. But that’s more on an individual basis. Most of the time, the ire is pretty well deserved. And, when it isn’t, we can point that out, like I did with MortSahlFan.
The main difference here between what happened with you vs. SuntanLotion is that, once they became aware they were angering people, they started trying to resolve it. They didn’t make it worse by accusing people of misogyny or trying to shame people for not being nice.
I actually think that stuff was what really got everyone so mad at you. It overwhelmed the initial issue. It is what I was saying seemed so out of character for you. You really seemed like a much meaner person.
Which is also a reason why a lecture doesn’t come off that well. It would be best to practice what you preach before telling others what they should do. And, even then, you have to do it well without accusatory language. (I don’t always succeed, either.)