Considering the plain ludicracy of this question please feel free to throw in your 2 cents.
If Wolverine with his admantium claws, were to fight against luke skywalker and his light saber, what would happen when the light saber comes in contact with his claws…
discuss…
Welcome to the board. This question would be better posed in Cafe Society, however.
As far as the answer is concerned, my opinion was stated succinctly by Clark Gable at the end of “Gone With The Wind.”
I really like the question!
I hope it gets moved and not just closed.
The Light Saber is not an ultimate weapon. Adamantium is supposedly indestructable. So, I would think they would clash with a nice clanking sound and a shower of sparks.
The real clash would be the dueling intellectual property concerns for marvel and lucasfilm.
PiNPOiNT - Lukes saber would make Wolverine Burgers out of him no doubt. Let’s not forget Adamantium is only indestructable to earthly phenomena. Luke is not from earth, so if he visited, Adamantium would be a mere second best to the wrath of the light saber.
Considering that such a question should have made the heads of millions of fanboys around the world snap around in a whiplash orchestra, I’m surprised there’s not more replies to this…
In my opinion, FWIW, Wolverine’s claws (and skeleton) are unbreakable, but not invulnerable. Being a metal, they are naturally dense, and being the hardest material on Earth, they are highly resistant to force impacts. However, as a lightsaber is an energy weapon, it does not function by breaking or shattering, but by cutting in an electron separating process, much like an electron knife or the microfilament whip from Johnny Mnemonic. Therefore, the lightsaber would part the dense electrons of the adamantium, cutting them as effectively as they do any other material.
In short, Luke would give Logan an instant manicure.
The result is that thousands of Entertainment Lawyers™ would rub their chancred hands together and dance with Glee (Glee really does dance well, ever since she took those Arthur Murray Studio courses, & they really don’t cost too much) over the Fat Fees™ they would collect when Luke™ and Logan™ fight it out.
The GQ forum is for questions with factual answers. I’ll move this thread to IMHO.
bibliophage
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As I understand it, it’s well-established in the comics that adamantium is completely, absolutely, totally indestructible. And it’s been established in the Star Wars movies (the highest level of canon) that there are some things a lightsabre can’t cut through (other lightsabre blades, for starters, as well as those forcefields in The Phantom Menace). Even when we’re looking at purely material substances, it took Qui-Gonn a good while to slice through an armored metal door. So it’s entirely plausible to suppose that a lightsabre cannot cut through adamantium.
However, this does not entirely resolve the issue. I’m not sure what the electrical properties of adamantium are (if this has ever even been addressed in the comic books), and the operative principle of a lightsabre has never been canonically explained. It’s quite possible that, when the sabre blade came into contact with Wolverine’s claws, a rather large current would be induced through his body, which can’t be good for him.
Further, even if Wolverine’s skeleton is indestructible, his various internal organs aren’t. A skilled Jedi would be quite capable of disemboweling him. The question then becomes a matter of whether Luke can inflict damage faster than Logan can heal it, and I suspect that he could.
If the lightsabre can cut through adamantium, then it’s a matter of who can get in the first good hit. I’d give the advantage to Luke, (I’m assuming Jedi Luke, not Wannabe Jedi Luke) because of the extrasensory Force abilities he has.
If the lightsabre can’t cut through adamantium (which seems more likely, give Chronos’ well thought out comments) then it’s a different story. Wolverine only needs to get in one good hit on Luke, since Luke has no healing ability. Wolverine can fight defensively and bide his time. He can even block with his forearms, since he’s got indestructible bones under there. And Luke’s swordplay was never that impressive. I’d put money on Qui Gon to beat Wolverine, but Luke? It’s dicey.
Of course, this totally ignores Luke’s ability to tell Wolverine “I’m not the Jedi you’re looking for.”
Assuming the light saber can cut through adamantium, I’d have to go with Luke. It’s a dude with knives attacking a dude with a sword, except that the knives don’t stop the sword’s edg.e
Assuming the light saber cannot cut through the adamantium, I would probably go with Wolverine. This would depend on a few things:
What about others from that series? Would Storm fry Luke’s saber-wielding butt with a lightning bolt? Could Magneto drag Luke around by his arm? Can a light saber stop the force of Cyclopse’s beam? Would he buy Mystique in the form of Yoda or Obi Wan or dear sister? Could Rogue smack him against hard objects until he cries “Uncle?”
Does anyone care?
I would first like to say that Wolverine is Sexy, and he should win just for that. I also think that Luke Skywalker would lose. I mean, yeah, he can cut off Wolverines claws, but everything else he does Wolverine can Heal from. All he ahs to do is keep on hitting Luke until he gives in.
I don’t see the adamantium and the light saber seriously damaging one another at all, for the reasons so well stated above. So the fight will go to whoever can penetrate the other’s defenses and insert a weapon effectively into the other.
I hate to say it, but on that, I’d have to give the fight to Luke. Logan’s good, but his style seems to be mainly based on raw force, while Luke has the advantage of his Jedi training and the force, which should in theory allow him to see and attack any gap in Logan’s defenses.
The question now becomes, how will Logan’s healing abilities affect the outcome? I think Luke can hit him, but will it be effective? Luke will have to hit Logan many times, while all Logan needs is one good shot.
Has it been established where the point beyond which Logan can’t heal is? What does it take to kill him?
Comedy Batman-kicks-them-both-in-the-nuts option.
And off we go to Cafe Society.
Jedi Luke has more powers than being good with a lightsaber. He can levitate objects much larger than Wolverine.
He’d simply hold Wolverine helpless in mid-air while he removed all his flesh from his adamantium bones with a levitating lightsaber. That is, if he wasn’t capable of winning a close fight (which he very well might). This is all assuming adamantium can’t be cut by lightsabers, if it can, he doesn’t need any tricks.
Has Luke ever won a hand-to-hand fight with anyone tougher than a stock evil minion?
Let’s go to the tape:
ANH: Luke needs old man to save him from bar fight.
ESB: Luke gets his ass handed to him by Vader.
ROTJ: Luke dispatches Jabba’s henchmen. Leia kills Jabba. Boba Fett killed by accident. Does pretty good in Round 2 against Vader, but leaves him with enough energy to toss the Emperor over a guardrail. Also needs egging on by the Emperor to reach a state of rage in order to hang with Vader.
Conclusion: Luke sucks, unless he’s in a state of rage. And he’ll never out-rage Wolverine. Ergo, Wolvie wins.
On preview: I forgot the Rancor. OK, so Luke’s OK against big dumb monsters. As long as Wolvie stays clear of large crushing doors, he’ll be OK.
Wolverine can’t survive being cut in half, nuff said.
As for the OP of can lightsaber cut adamantium, I always figured a energy weapon can cut through any type of matter.
In the comics, Wolverine survived having all of the adamatium yanked out of his body by Magneto. That had to hurt. Left him messed up for awhile, if I recall, but he survived, and even somehow managed to grow bone claws to replace the adamantium claws. The bone claws gave the Hulk a good laugh the first time Logan tried to use them on him.
Adamantium may be the hardest stuff in the Marvel universe, but it is malleable in some way. Had to be to get attached to Wolverine’s skeleton. The X2 movie shows adamantium in a molten form. I don’t remember if the comics did also.
I think the lightsaber could probably cut through adamantium , but it may not be a quick slice. Best method for Luke would probably be to burn out Logan’s innards, and then, when Logan passes out, hack his head off before he can heal.
Even if the saber doesn’t cut adamantium, it would still pass through it (since a saber beam is non-material). Only force fields and such will actually STOP a saber beam.
Thus, neither fighter has any workable defense, other than dodging. It’s going to be simply a matter of speed and reach.
We have to assume, for lack of data, that a trained Jedi and an animalistic mutant have roughly the same reflexes and the same skill level.
A saber has much more reach than claws, so right away, we have a simple “sword vs. knife” situation, which will nearly always be won by the swordsman.
Making things worse for Logan, his claws will only cut in one direction, while the saber will cut in any direction.
Since all the mass of the saber is in the handle, its angular inertia is very low. Luke can flick it around much more easily than an ordinary sword.
Logan cannot possibly heal as quickly as Luke can cut his flesh off. Even an ordinary sword will take off pounds of flesh with each stroke.
Advantage: Luke