Just to clarify, I never, ever said he was like Trump. I said he employed Trumpian tactics. That’s what turned me off of him for good and all in 2016.
I detest Facebook so I don’t partake. But are you fucking serious? Are actual Sanders supporters literally saying this? Not Russian Trolls and Brad Parscale?
Wouldn’t surprise me given the grievances his supporters have made on these threads already.
I guess the Democratic party now controls Fivethirtyeight, eh?
Yes, they literally blame the DNC for closing Texas voting booths.
Didn’t take long for a fellow doper and, I assume Bernie supporter, to help spread disinformation.
Men, your support will help us win.
Popular Sanders policies:
Not kill American people with no money for doctors:
Not kill everyone with global warming and not let working class people die from no jobs:
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1907190926.pdf#page=3
His policies are popular, just vote for him and spread the word.
You linked your own post.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
…which quoted the post in question.
Manwich, fighting for your preferred candidate is right now clearly a very fine thing to do.
Just as a hypothetical exercise however, at what point would you conclude that it was time to start circling the wagons? Would you want the fight to be fought as hard and nasty as necessary up until it was literally mathematically impossible for Sanders to win even if won every remaining pledged delegate? Or even until the delegates actually vote because they are legally allowed to vote their conscience no matter how they are pledged … maybe en masse they could have a realization that in good conscience they should vote Sanders.
I’m thinking he needs to win decently well in Michigan to turn it around or it’s over. I am guessing you think otherwise.
The race is very front loaded this time and by March 27 there is not much left. If he has lost Michigan, Florida, Ohio, and even Arizona (states that are critical general election ones) and also Illinois and Georgia as biggish ones, by then, would you want him to keep selling how bad Biden is and/or whatever narrative might make a case for him? There would still be Pennsylvania and New York as big states.
In such a hypothetical what point would be the time to start shifting to a general election mode, in your opinion?
Thanks
According to one poll, Biden may now be winning by double digits nationally. I’m in agreement: Bernie has to win in Michigan and Ohio to have any chance, which would seem not very likely at this point.
It’ll be interesting to see the messaging coming out of Sanders’ campaign. They’ve been arguing that the one with the most delegates should win, but if he gets creamed in Michigan and Ohio, then that would almost guarantee that he’d lose the delegate count.
Just the opposite, but thanks for playing.
Why so much negativity in a thread about Bernie’s realistic path? Hypotheticals about his losing the nomination are a side issue.
I think his best hope is to get people out to vote, convert centrists and keep building a popular, grass roots movement.
Saying that now I think the answer to the hypothetical is to keep the momentum going and keep demanding that US politics has a voice for the uninsured, the non warmongers and basic majority views as linked above.
Obviously I have no choice but to accept your answer/non-answer, but a discussion about his “realistic path” does of course include consideration of what is no longer “realistic” when.
As to negativity … well depends on what one’s desired outcome is, don’t it?
Why is nobody asking what Biden’s path is, when he’s only slightly ahead of Sanders?
Bidens path is mostly a lock.
The remaining delegate rich states are all either southern states or rust belt states.
Let’s just hope Biden doesn’t do something really stupid between now and November and that if he wins he is surrounded by very intelligent, competent people who can prevent bidens gullibility and declining cognitive abilities from being used to harm the democratic agenda.
I could see Biden offering to cut social security, appoint conservative judges or abandon his agenda just to appear bipartisan. I hope his vp, chief of staff, senate majority leader etc all block this behavior on his part.
Because he has the polling lead, he has good states ahead of him, and it’s very hard to come back in a two way race with proportional primaries. Which is why 538 now has Bernie down to 2%.
…momentum is a thing.
The democratic agenda is regaining the white house.
Bernie only won a majority in one state: 50.8% in Vermont (after getting 86% in 2016). His next-best primary result was 36.1% in Colorado. He was able to win New Hampshire with 25% of the vote because the mainstream candidates were dividing the vote. One on one now, with no early voting banked, he doesn’t have a prayer. (It’s awesome!)