I was reading a thread, tried to get back to the forum and got a message that said something like “Too many users logged, this message has been sent to the technical team.” And then I was booted.
Why was I chosen to be booted? Of course I immediatly logged on again. The board is slow, as I suppose it would be with too many people.
Should I have logged back on? I mean, I was here first and it’s first come first serve. Why should I be booted?
What that means is that more than 100 people were trying to get the board to do something at the same time; they were logging in, sending posts, etc. They all hit the button at about the same time and the system could not process all of the requests.
Sorry you got kicked out. You were right to try again; sometimes it takes a couple of tries, but it does work. Eventually everybody gets what they want.
What irks me is that if you get the message when trying to submit a reply, your reply is lost unless you’ve had the foresight to compose it on or copy it into Notepad.
They say don’t submit twice, but I was in Hourglass Mode for 5 minutes trying to post an answer to my Kmart thread.
Then I pulled the plug to make a phone call, and my Back button brought up an empty hole.
I remembered people CLAIM it always goes through, but just late.
So, I dialed in after my talk and the post hadn’t regstered at all. Fortunately it was a two liner and I remembered it.
I’m behind a firewall at work, and almost always time out when sending in a reply. I always select and copy all of the text before hitting the submit button.
Here’s a little trick I use when a submission seems to be taking longer than normal. This is quick and reliable and if your post has not gone through (which is almost never the case) you’ll have something to cut and paste later.
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[li]Right click in the text edit window.[/li][li]Choose “select all” from the pop-up menu.[/li][li]Right click again.[/li][li]Choose “copy” from the pop-up menu.[/li][li]Start a text editor and paste to it.[/li][/ol]
This works for MSIE, I don’t know how you Netscape or Mac users would do this, but I’m certain there’s a similar procedure.
See, there’s that reassurance again.
“almost never” only counts in Horseshoes.
If you care about the post, if it’s long, wait to see it before believing. Safe, not sorry.
Yes yes, I know the tricks. What irks me is that this is 2000, not 1970. Such tricks shouldn’t be necessary. I must say, I would never accept such behavior in a program that I wrote or managed.
And yes, I will put my money where my mouth is; I repeat my offer to fix this bug for free.
I’m sorry you’re having difficulties. I’ve asked Jerry the tech god to comment, but in the meantime I’ll just say that, despite new software, we’re still suffering from the problems associated with very high usage. The system is more stable in the sense that we don’t have to restart the server once a day, but response times during busy periods (afternoons have been bad lately, I notice) are unavoidably slow. I believe the board now has its own T-1 line, but we’re often running at capacity. There are some plans to alleviate this but I’ll let Jerry speak to that. Right now all I can suggest is that (a) try to visit in the morning, when things are slower, and (b) make a copy of your post before sending, as UncleBeer advises.
Wow, Tuba, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for telling me about the Internet Traffic Report this morning. It was oddly comforting to go over there, when the SDMB came creaking and shuddering to a halt at this end, and see that apparently, out of four routers that I’m supposed to have working for me (the red boxes in the North America graph is me, right?), one had completely closed up shop, and two of the others, taking the strain, were groaning along at 25 and 31. Nice to know I’m not alone–all over North America, other people are shouting, “Come on, come ON!” at their computers.
I’m not sure you understand how to read the “Internet Traffic Report”. It gives a rating of the major routers all over the world. The router you actually go thru is dependent on your location and the way the packets are routed to the destination.
The red boxes mean the router has a rating of 33 or less. Yellow is 34 to 66 and green is 67 and above.
Right now, I’m going thru some local routers to the Dallas router, to 3 Washington DC routers and on into a Chicago via a router that is not listed. But Chicago is having lot’s of trouble with the routers listed on the “Internet Traffic Report” so I’m not going the most direct route.
It gives you a general idea of how the internet is working, but you can’t really say that because 4 routers are red is the reason you are having a slowdown. Now, an hour ago, 18 out of the 30 listed routers were red, that tells you something is going on.
If you really want to know what’s happening between you and a particular site, run a traceroute and look at the response times. If you’re running NT you have a simple one available, but I like NeoTrace, myself
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It also has a schematic map display, a geographic map display, and a response time graph.
JonF, thanks but I’m afraid I’m not quite computer-literate enough to know what I’d be doing if I did all that. Looks fascinating, though. If you could condense it all down into a button that says, “Hey, like, what happened to the SDMB?” I’d be interested.
Jim, yeah, after I went back and sat there and puttered around with it for a while, I figured that out. But it’s still pretty cool, IMO.
Is it safe to say that if I live in the Midwest, I would be using the Chicago routers? Does it just go by simple geographical proximity?
Also, I was discussing all this with a friend last night, and HE says the global Internet slowdown is entirely due to college kids trading MP3 files with Napster. He says it eats up tremendous amounts of bandwidth, so that “business people who need to use the Internet to get some work done–can’t.” (It was a mini-rant.)
He also for some reason blames “universities that have their own servers”, because he says that, first of all, it encourages their student population to download MP3s (“hey, man, we got our own server–cool!”), and second, because the university’s server then somehow demands extra time from the regional router, clogging things up for “real businesses”.
So is this a fair criticism? He doesn’t actually wear tinfoil in his hat, if that makes a difference.
NeoTrace’s on-scren displays are much clearer. But it’s unlikeley to be a terrifically useful tool for you. The display I posted shows that, at that time of day after nine tries, the worst response was from core2-vienna.chicago.winstar.net at around half a second. Transit delays are not often the cause of problems on the Internet, and the response problems people are seeing here are almost certainly not transit delays.