What you have failed to recognize again is that I never said I gave a fuck about it at all.
No where.
No where at all did I say I give a fuck about a married status of a mom. Or a person’s color. Or their education level. I just brought it up because people were arguing from their asses.
Are you capable of reading a statement like “black people have lower education levels than white people” without making a judgement about the person typing it? If not, this probably isn’t the place for you.
If you think I’m conservative/christian/“family values” oriented or anything else in that kind of grouping, you’re so fucking far off base, you’re in Japan.
And what you have failed to realize, again, is that you have introduced the concept of the marriage status of the parents of the child. If you don’t care about that, why keep harping on it?
If you cannot make the distinction between single mothers and mothers who were unmarried at the time of the birth, then perhaps this isn’t the place for you.
Not that far off base. The closest one here is about an hour away.
I introduced the concept of marriage? So, when the OP wrote
he was really talking about the women who got married and had kids in their teens, and have since been married two or three times, and had kids with all those different husbands.
He wasn’t talking about out-of-wedlock births at all.
I PERSONALLY don’t care about whether some woman I meet who is 35 and single has a kid.
All I ever cared about here was that people were falsely representing some the OP’s notions as stereotypes, when it was their own arguments that represented stereotypes and prejudices, albeit liberal ones.
(and, I use “cared about” loosely. I’d much rather argue about icing the kicker.)
OK, let’s review what’s happening here. You jump into this thread on post 133
So, yes. You’ve introduced the concept of the marital state of the parents at the time of birth, unless you can find an earlier reference.
It’s well-known that there are more babies born to unwed black parents than white parents in the States, but there are also more babies born to unwed Iceland parents than white US parents.
The question not being asked or answered is how many more black single women in their 30s have children vs. white single women in the same situation.
We can prove it’s more likely for the whites to have gotten their via divorce and that blacks are more likely to not have been married, but again, the status at the time of the birth is meaningless.
There’s a lot of stupidity on this thread, as well as the black camping thread, but introducing yet another irrelevent factor will only get you into arguments with us literal people.
Jesus Christ, VC03, next time I have a family reunion I’ll send ya an invite. Then you can ask all of the black people questions to your heart’s content. I’m black, I’m married, I drive a jeep and I like camping.
I have a friend who is also black that likes to rock climb and go biking. I have a cousin (also black) that likes martial arts and motorcycling. My college roommate (black) is a fine artist. I worked with a guy (black) from texas and he was an honest to Gawd cowboy dude. He like riding horses and doing cowboy stuff that tenderfeet like me don’t understand.
I don’t understand why black people fascinate you so much, but you might want to talk to more than one guy before you paint us all with one broad brush.
The topics can spark interesting discussions. That’s is why I enjoy the “Ask The” series of threads. Part of what rubs me the wrong way is the idea that there is a “___ experience.” I’m not saying there aren’t cultural trends, but I think some people believe that there is more group cohesiveness than there really is in some cases. My “black experience” may line up closely with **Lil’ Pluck’s **, Jali’s, and a random black person whose never heard of the SDMB or it might be wildly dissimilar. It would be like asking ten people at a museum to describe the American experience. I know we have to work with what we’ve got here, though, and the threads are good for what they are.
I’m also interested in the attitude in the OP towards women. “Damaged goods”? WTF. And the assumption that someone who likes to go to clubs and just might actually enjoy sex would not make a good partner.
Paul Verhoeven: ironic genius or abject hack for Starship Troopers?
Paul Verhoeven: ironic genius or abject hack for Showgirls?
Paul Verhoeven: ironic genius or abject hack for Basic Instinct?
Paul Verhoeven: ironic genius or abject hack for Total Recall?
You might say the man’s a lightning rod for SDMB controversy. Black people just don’t seem to get him.
No it’s not meaningless. The fact that one ethnic group has an “out-of-wedlock” birth rate that is so much higher than other ethnic groups raises interesting questions about why. Is it a cultural thing? Is it related to education or income level? It’s very relevant.
It’s irrelevent to the discussion at hand, which is the percentage of single women in their 30s with kids. There are a large number of single parents out there.
As posted above, a smaller percentage of married black women have babies than unmarried white women, but more married white women get divorced. Thus, without further information we cannot make a judgement of the respective percentages.
