When is it okay to call a woman a slut?

Who the fuck lets that happen “yet again”?!

Sometimes being polite isn’t an issue. As an insult slut is rather decent one, not intensely profane, and a comment on someone’s actions rather than their state of being.

Did I inadvertently pee on your cornflakes?

I understand people who say it’s never okay, but it’s clear that it bothers people more in some situations than others. While I see some defenses of Hilton in the thread in question, no one seems to be freaking out about the “slut” label itself. The closest is one person who alleges it is due to jealousy.

So I think the OP’s question is, at what point does society stop caring that someone is being called a slut?

If Hilton is any example, it’s when they are famous and a “slutty” image is what made them famous. And it’s also when the person in question owns it as a label.

As for my own opinion, I don’t think you will convince people that there is nothing wrong with being overly focused on sex to the exclusion of even “fucky buddy” level relationships (or however people are defining the term nowadays). If you want equality, it’s more practical to start using the term for (straight) men as well.

In bed, if she’s told you she’s into that, or in jest, with a friend you don’t think will be offended (unless she indicates that she’s uncomfortable, then it’s not OK anymore).

One should never call one’s mother, daughter, or sister a slut. All fair game other than that.

What’s the deal with all the people who think the term can be applied to a man? I’ve only ever seen Jim Theis do that before this thread.

No, that’s when you call her “Cecilia.”

When you need absolutely everyone to know how unsatisfying your own sex life is, and that you believe taking it out on other people will somehow improve this situation.

I knew a girl in college that got busted having sex in the public, male-only shower room of some guy’s dorm. She also made her boyfriend’s roommate move out of their house because she was so loud during sex.

That girl’s a slut. No shame. No class. Slut. And it’s okay for me to call her a slut, because I don’t impose my lack of sexual grace on others and force them to alter their behavior.

If the woman in this story isn’t a slut then the word is meaningless and should be retired immediately.

The fact that acts of depravity occur somewhere in the world really has no bearing on the conversation going in in this thread

But, thanks for sharing, I guess.

NO! Only when she emphatically demands and begs that you do. :smiley:

We are discussing the meaning of the word “slut”. I gave an example of a woman whose behavior would most likely qualify under even the most stringent definition of the word. How does it have no bearing?

For the same reason it’s never okay to call a black person “uppity” even if that individual is exhibiting behavior that is entitled and presumptive well beyond normal social bounds.

“Slut” is a word that originates in the still widely held belief that sexual behavior that is unremarkable, or even laudable, in a man, suggests a deep character flaw in any woman. To use the word, even with a different personal definition, is to continue and extend an attitude that is pretty offensive. It’s not about whether or not the “bad” woman deserves to be called a slut… It’s whether or not the rest of us deserve to live in a world where the idea that having any sex at all makes a woman dirty still has currency.

To answer the OP:
When your medical insurance is paid up.

What MandaJO says above.

And I’ll add: when the same sensationalistic article refers to the men involved as something male equivalent. No wait, actually not even then. Your article does not help define or move the conversation forward, it just provides a little titillation.

When the woman weighs over 300lbs but is trying way, way too hard to look sexy?

If you’re going to argue that it is wrong to value a woman based on her choice of sexual behavior then it is hypocritical for you to pass moral judgment on the event in question by calling it an “act of depravity.” Unless you consider the depravity to exist solely with the men, in which case we’ll end up with an unnecessary digression in sexual power and gender politics, which I don’t want to do.

When she’s really, really good at it.