PSSsst!! Welcome back Honey!!!
It looks like LOVE wins hands down.
Never had sex with a guy I loved, but have had sex with a woman I loved…(and still do). Had more sex with guys and hated it but I turned out to be gay and so I have no idea that if I loved one of the guys it might have been quite good. But at the same time I’ve never had sex with a woman I didn’t love I might enjoy that too?
Lord help me I have no idea… my opinion is useless in this debate.:smack:
C. None of the above.
It’s best when the only goal isn’t procreation.
“Honey, I’m ovulating! Get an erection! That is, after you take out the garbage. It’s trash day tomorrow.”
Get pregnant as teenagers, kids. Girls especially, it might be your only chance. That’s right, go ahead and get knocked up at sixteen. Don’t believe any bullshit claims that you can pop out kids just as easily once you hit your thirties. The statistics don’t lie in this case.
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I think it’s different for men and women. For men, it’s pretty hard to have sex in the first place if your not horny, whether or not you are also in love. Therefore, it’s really not an either/or situation.
Barry
This thread is still on its first page and we have here two completely opposing points of view. Sadly, I’m with Beagle here. It was a blizzard of negatives month after month after month after month… and yes, if you concieve then perhaps those humiliating infuriating marriage-demolishing draining bitter sad crushingly disappointing cycles simply vanish like smoke on a windy night in the brilliant whitewash of pregnancy. But, I have my doubts as to that. :rolleyes:
Enough of the hijack, but dayum those two posts struck chords within me.
Sex with someone you are deeply in love with is something entirely beyond sex. To be concise about it ( to me at least), sex is going through all of the proper motions, sometimes with amazing skill, and never connecting into your lover’s eyes. Sex with the person you are deeply in love with connects you moment to moment, and draws you into her eyes, into her soul with such ferocity that the moments of climax that are exchanged and shared are not endings, but merely slightly brighter stars in a startlingly clear night sky filled with billions of starkly etched points of light. Time slows and stops, hours pass and seem to be mere minutes. Laughter abounds. Exhaustion ensues. The denoument frequently involves breakfast foods.
I am lucky that I have known such moments in my life. I will probably never know them again. I’ve expressed these sentiments to friends who have stared at me as though I were insane; I realize that some people never pass through these moments at all.
Cartooniverse
Wow, you understood 100%. Thanks for not flaming me. It’s a personal (arguably stupid) opinion based on personal events. I’m not truly suggesting everyone’s teenagers go get pregnant.
OTOH, the grass isn’t always greener over here. It’s a long, sad story.
Yeah there is a big difference between ‘sex when trying to concieve’ and ‘sex when trying to concieve has become a nightmare’
Hubby and I had both. Eventually we gave up trying to concieve but that ‘ok it is time get in here and do it so I can lay on pillows with too much blood in my head and none in my feet for half an hour’ sex is not fulfilling at all.
Lucky for us we managed to make babies eventually (as a complete and utter shock to us!)
I’ve only had sex willingly with my husband whom I am deeply in love with. I cannot imagine having sex with someone whom I did not have that kind of emotional attachment with. The act is too intimate for me to perform casually. I cannot imagine a more incredible experience than what we share.
You need both.
This might sound like a cop-out, but the absolute best is when your head over heels in love with someone who makes you so DAMN horny you can’t keep your hands off each other.
If you can get deep love and that “Oh my God I HAVE to fuck you right now!” feeling in one person you are in for the best sex in the world.
Well, I can’t speak to the whole ‘making every effort’ thing. It took us 3+ years to conceive Baby Kate and we didn’t do any of that stuff. We just stopped using BC and had at it. No thermometers, no ovulation schedules, no nothing. Just our normal routine without pills or wraps.
Perfect. Couldn’t have said it better!!!
My SO and I are MADLY in love and we do make love to each other. However, we do also fuck each others brains out on occasion.
But, I guess you have to be in love with that person in order to do both.
Same here, but most of the time when we’re “fucking” it still feels very intense and still like “making love.”
I think people think making love is when you do it slow and fucking is when you do it fast/rough. If you’re madly in love, then no matter how you do it you’re making love. That’s my .02.
LOL thanks… as you can tell from my OP, I’ve been a little busy lately 
You got it !!! Thats exactly how me and my BF feel about each other… we’ve sat in restaurants almost yelling for the bill so we could get back home lol… but we also take our damn time too and have it long and slow…
I just feel that making love/having sex with someone you adore is soooooooooooo much better than having sex just for the sake it - but you knew I felt that way anyway!!!
Well… now I’m off for 2 weeks of having lashings of fun with BF as of first thing tomorrow morning when I pick him up from the airport. Be good (we won’t! 
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