I don’t mind it at all. To me, it’s like a nipple slip. Armpit hair is fine by me too.
Never. Bald is here to stay. Natural bush is fugly, and I say that having grown up in a time when landscaping was unheard of.
Because we talk about this stuff. And because I’m one of them. (Again: cite, testicle)
If it’s the bathing suit line you’re talking about, I think I see the issue - on most women, if the hair there is left alone, it rubs away with the friction of movement and the leg hem of your underwear. When I used to shave, I had to maintain that line with a razor, but when I quit shaving, after the hair grew out to its full length, it fell out and no new hair replaced it. It just gets buffed away before it’s noticeable, I guess.
You’re assuming the hair reaches just to the line. TMI, but unchecked, my pubes reach 2-3 inches outside the most conservative bathing suit.
I have to side with hopefully never.
When I came of age, the full (occasionally full but trimmed) bush was in style. After I’d been of age for a while, shaving the actual labia or mowing down to a landing strip came into fashion and I noticed it was a hell of a lot more pleasant to go down on women who did the landscaping.
My wife keeps a hardwood deck, and we both prefer it that way. Since I don’t expect to ever be with anyone else again, she’s the only member of the population I really have a vested interest in one way or the other, but as a man who does enjoy seeing naked women other than his wife, I hope and pray that nothing furrier than a small landing strip above the labia ever comes back in style.
Full disclosure and possibly TMI, I also landscape. Pits, balls and that little spot on the small of my back that grows hair are kept shaved. The pubes themselves are trimmed, as is much of the rest of my body hair. Just getting this out there to fend off the, “Men don’t understand how much work it is to maintain,” comments.
FWIW, I started shaving my pits when I was between jobs and working as a cab driver. It really makes a difference in terms of anti-perspirant/deordoant effectiveness.
Not for two generations, at least. Mine (mid-20’s) and the following (cheeky upstarts) will overwhelmingly prefer it trimmed or bald.
As it should be. Wiry nests of keratinized coil springs; attractive they are not.
Like most things, variety is the key. I like both but probably 'cos I’m grateful that a woman would show me her naked body in the first place.
Same here. I am very hairy. Fortunately I don’t go swimming much, and since I managed to find a boy-short bathing suit with a little leg coverage, I don’t need to worry about it.
I gave up on the hair removal thing once I realized that I only seem to date guys who prefer the natural thing (and yes, there are lots of those). Now I shave my legs only before weddings (the only time I wear fancy shoes and bare legs), trim pits and pubes when they get too unbearable, and otherwise I grow free all the time.
The last time anyone expressed any dissatisfaction with this was in 1999, and I have had … um … several lovers since then.
In fact I have had more than one discussion IRL along these lines. Each time, I have wondered aloud whether men who concern themselves with these things take the time to trim around the bushes themselves. Each time, I have been subsequently taken aside and thanked by the girlfriend of one of the men I addressed the comment to.
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There are some of us that just aren’t that hairy to start with. But I also wear relatively modest swimsuits.
Ok, I have no problem believing that some women have pubic hair which extends out to the legs a considerable distance.
And what I’m telling you is some of us don’t. That the claim that “even the “natural” ones they see from back in the day still involve an annoying and time consuming amount of work.” is too absolutist to be useful. There are plenty of women who don’t shave pluck or wax and have pubic hair that doesn’t threaten to scare people at the pool. And I guess I don’t understand the argument anyhow - that shaving or waxing 2-3 inches is more time consuming than shaving or waxing the whole thing? That doesn’t make any sense.
Or just that the use of “full” and “natural” in the same sentence is incorrect? The OP isn’t talking about groomed-to-the-pantyline women here, he’s talking landing strips and Brazilians. I’m sure he’d consider trimmed to the pantyline as “full”.
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All these comments about too much/little hair down south, and here I’m 29 and my beard still grows in patches, which is the absolute worst. I have to shave because my au natural look is, shall we say, repulsive inbred trailer trash?
What i wouldnt give to have the option to shave or not!
Apologies for my temporary lapse into self pity. In regards to bush, i’m not a die hard fan of bald kitties, but its not a turn off either. Wildly overgrown bush makes me gag a bit though.
Ideally, there would be a modest amount. Not bald, or even a landing strip, but also not buckwheat on a bad hair day.
So no, I would prefer not to go back to the 70s. 80s, ok.
Btw… do fans of natural bush also prefer that the guys/girls not get haircuts at all either? Just curious.
Same here!
I’m another “hopefully never” guy.
And all this time I feared I was over-obsessing about this whole bathing suit thing - that everybody else has the same problem and the fact that I never see their pubes sticking out means I worry about it too much - checking all the time, draping a towel over my lap just in case, wearing shorts when not actually enjoying beach or pool activities…
Evidently not. I’ll go hide in the shame circle, kay? With my towel in my lap.
Ditto.
Well, the 19th Century writer John Ruskin was rather famously {and probably apocryphally} reputedly unable to consummate his marriage after discovering that his new bride, unlike the Greek and Roman statuary he was familiar with, sported luxuriant undergrowth: the depiction of bald crotches on women did not begin with modern pornography.
I’m old enough to have grown up when “natural” was pretty much it, even in porn. Sure, you might trim it for bathing suits or shorts because it’s pubic hair, not public hair, but most people didn’t worry about it. Keep it clean and free of knots/tangles/small creatures and it was all good. Some of us girls were overly blessed with hair, but you sort of expected adults to have some crotch hair.
My man does like it when I shave my legs, but it’s not a huge issue. It would be nice if he was the one blessed with a pelt, but that’s not how it happened (darn ancestry! I come from a hairy tribe). Of course, now that the body hair is fading to gray maybe it won’t be so noticeable as when I had white, white skin and dark, dark hair. Or maybe we old farts just don’t see it like we used to, fading eyesight ya know?
I guess what it comes down to is that I don’t feel right telling other people how to wear their hair, regardless of where on the body it grows. All I ask is that you keep it reasonably clean and groomed.
(quote trimmed a bit)
Let me state for the record that I don’t give a damn about porn, I do “extra grooming” because I just like it better that way. I feel cleaner, sex (especially oral) feels better and the hubby likes it too. All good enough reasons for me.
I’ll second what an earlier poster said about some women having more hair than others, I’ve observed this throughout my life.
It’s kind of a “duh” thing, too. I know guys that don’t shave their body hair but well, just don’t have much of it. I know guys my age (50s) who can’t grow any facial hair worthy of note.
Then I know a lot of guys who paintstakingly shave their entire bodies bald.
I’m not in the business of judging people’s personal grooming habits. What I don’t “get” though is the wave of people that seem to be the “norm” now, who insist that if you’re female you should basically have no hair whatsoever anywhere on your body other than scalp and eye brows and who insist males should have no body hair, no pubic hair, and at the most a faux-“unkempt” beard (actually carefully groomed to give this effect.) For the people that like grooming themselves that way, cool. But don’t act like me having the thick, natural chest hair I’ve always had is “dirty” it isn’t. It’s fucking hair, and we’re fucking mammals, get over it, and get over yourselves.
As for female pubic hair, it’s certainly never been a turn off for me.
After I had my 2nd child, the midwife was tending to my southern regions and commented about the fact that women used to complain about being shaved and now they shave themselves. Doing so while heavily pregnant is no mean trick, too.
But when you know you’re going to be wearing the industrial strength pads for a few weeks, less hair means easier hygiene.
Have you ever worn close fitting long sleeved shirt all day long? The kind with the really narrow sleeves that smash all your arm hair down? Have you ever had your arm hair get sore by the end of the day from being smashed down to your skin?
Well that’s why I tidy up.