I don’t know when it will happen, but I hope it happens soon. Silicon and shaved pussies have ruined porn. The bush is what gives a vagina all its character. I much prefer a natural look. I don’t understand why so many guys need a woman to look like a child down there in order to get it up. Sick fucks. I hope Chris Hansen catches their asses. It’s just a shame that so many young women have been implanted with the sick idea that they have to make themselves look prepubescent to be acceptable to men. Shaved pussies are a peversion of nature and an abuse of women. I liken it to female circumcision on a scale of misogynist wrongness.
Fake boobs are just as bad. We’ve fetishized a body part to the extent where we actually think it’s attractive to grotequely distort the size. It’s really our equivalent of putting plates in our lips or binding women’s feet.
I’ll agree that maybe some women feel they need to do it to feel attractive to men, but a lot of us just like the way it feels for ourselves. I don’t care at all what a man thinks of it at all.
Don’t think “kinky” – it’s just that at heart, I’m an all-natural girl, I think I’m beautiful as-is, and glad that my guy likes me in my natural state. I rarely ever wear makeup either, and he prefers me without makeup too (unlike the guy in this thread).
Both these threads have me shaking my head at how so many men expect and need their women somehow altered to find them attractive… men who prefer women trimmed, shaved, waxed, plucked, tanned, dyed, painted, perfumed, made-up – anything other than their natural state.
You’re on to something here. I think “sick fucks” may have just been added for dramatic effect, but I agree with your overall sentiment. I think that generally, men don’t consciously think that way, but that it is ingrained in their minds from years of being bombarded with imagery of “idealized” beauty, in anything from porn (over-sized boobs) to thin actresses and airbrushed models splashed all over print and film.
What’s ironic is that on the lower half, a bald crotch is favored (characteristic of a child) and on the top half, over-sized breasts are emphasized (characteristic of a mature/childbearing woman) – two polar opposites.
I haven’t really gotten the impression that anyone needs or expects women to do one thing or another in order to find them attractive. It’s just a preference. The two are quite distinct, and it’s really not as bizarre as you seem to think it is.
No weirder than women who insist their men MUST be clean shaven, as just one example. Both sides of the mating game have expectations, some more reasonable than others.
I think that the sick fucks has been added for dramatic effect, but to compare a bit of downstairs grooming to female circumcision is ridiculous. Just because you prefer a ‘natural’ look doesn’t mean that that’s the correct preference and every other guy must be a secret paedophile. How about girls that prefer guys to be clean-shaven? Should be hope that they get caught in a sting for the predators they must be…I mean, preferring their men to look pre-pubescent.
Should people not style their hair so they can look more natural? Should we give up on smelling nice and just smell natural? (As an aside, I love my girlfriend’s perfume, but I prefer how she smells when we’re up close. I’m fully aware of why she wears perfume, though, and that’s to smell nice.)
I’m aware that last bit is a little of a tangent, but I just find it hard to believe that you honestly think guys who like their girls trimmed are pretty much criminals. Girls aren’t as hairy as guys, and if they shave/wax/trim, it only accentuates the fact that they’re girls. That’s it. Just because you have this particular viewpoint on how women should look doesn’t mean that all others are wrong. Or worse.
I, and I’m fairy sure most guys, don’t expect my girls altered for me to find them attractive. I think that a girl who wears too much make-up, is fake/over tanned or drowned in perfume detracts from what she really looks like. But I don’t think that trying to emphasise femininity is wrong or indicative of misogynistic society. I’m quite happy to take care of myself, go to the gym, shave, smell nice and look nice for my girlfriend. I probably wouldn’t have gotten her if I hadn’t in the first place.
While I’m pro-bush, I do have to agree with the other posters here who’ve said that this isn’t a modern American perversion. The ancient Egyptians removed body hair using body sugaring. The Romans removed it through some means we’re unsure of, likely plucking or shaving, though they may have taken waxing/sugaring methods from Egypt. Muhammad told his followers it was necessary for them to shave their pubic hair and underarms, and how to shave has been a topic of religious discussion.
The only odd thing in all of this is that while many cultures have traditionally encouraged the removal of body hair, many of them (including the ones mentioned above) encouraged this of both genders.
So the argument that men like women to shave or wax because it makes them more feminine, as women naturally have less body hair than men, doesn’t really hold water. Ancient statuary will show both genders lacking a natural amount of hair, not just women. Even Michaelangelo’s David has clearly benefited from some manscaping and has but a wee, mannish version of a landing strip.
I think we as a species simply sometimes go “ew icky” about body hair, all gender politics aside.
I was hoping I wouldn’t be the only one to have this sentiment. I assume it’s partly jealousy on my part, as I can’t do a landing strip right no matter how much I try. It always ends up not quite right and then I say the hell with it and shave that last bit off.
I have never needed a bush trim to keep stray hairs from escaping a swimsuit, and my leg hair is fine and light enough to not shave all that often. I also don’t bother to shave above my knees, since I have maybe a dozen hairs on each thigh anyway. If they bug me, I pluck them. I shave or trim the bush on occasion if I feel like it. I don’t much care what other people do to themselves or prefer in others, although if a lover requested that I shave or trim, I would. Then again, I’m one of those freaks who doesn’t wear make-up either, since it either makes no difference or makes me look too obviously made-up. It just doesn’t seem worth the effort for the indifference of the result.
I leave almost everything free and wild. I’ll trim a bit in the summer so I can wear a bikini, and I shave my armpits and legs, and that’s it. That’s how I like to live. If a gentleman ever gave me any grief about it, well then he doesn’t have to be sleeping in my bed. I can go find someone else who likes it. For that matter, I like hairier guys (and facial hair, which a lot of women despise for some reason). I like them to look like men.
I also leave that little line of hair from my pubes to my navel unshaved. I’ve noticed that if I’m wearing a shirt that reveals it, women tell me how disgusting it is and that I should get rid of it. Every man I’ve ever had loved it. One called it the ‘treasure trail’. I did shave it off once as surprise for one boyfriend. I jumped out, said “Guess what!” and showed it to him.
He wailed, “WHY?”
I said, “I thought you’d like it!”
By now he was visibly distraught. “It made you unique!”
I was like damn. Then I had to concentrate on growing it back.
There no logical connection between “thin actresses and airbrushed models” in film and print and pubic hair. I think it is highly unlikely that one can induce the state of a woman’s Mons Veneris by her body type or career in entertainment. This is an empirical question. In fact, I might just write an NSF grant to solve this crucial problem of our times.
The idea that men are so deeply socialized is odd and vaguely misandrist. I’m 30 and got started kind of late: I was 18 before my first good look at a vagina. I wasn’t saturated with porn. My house had one computer, and shit, how much porn could I have downloaded with a 2400 baud modem? I don’t think I am so unusual that my sexual tastes come from actually, you know, having sex rather than watching endless amounts of porn. Even if you don’t want to shave your damn pubes, you should at least take Occam’s razor to your arguments. You assume male sexual programming and then follow it up with an ex post facto.
Sometimes you feel like a bush; sometimes you don’t.
Mississippiene, that’s called a ‘crab ladder’ where I come from. ‘Treasure trail’ is more affirmative, though.
My fave euphemism for a Brazilian is ‘shaved yam with a sports tuft.’
Count me among the naturals. I’ve been married a while, so I’ve never foraged in a barren garden. Can’t imagine what bothers thems that think pubic hair is an impediment to oral sex. Never got in my way.
Soon after my wife and I got together, I told her in an offhand way that she shouldn’t shave on my account; I hated shaving and so I felt it somewhat hypocritical to hold her to a different standard.
She has not shaved her legs or pits since. Her legs are lightly hairy; her armpits luxuriant. Funny, she was still a good lay after she stopped shaving.
Now I knew a Portuguese girl who stopped shaving and her shit was like Burt Reynolds or some other hairy dude. Damn.
Don’t think “kinky” – it’s just that at heart, I’m an all-natural girl, I think I’m beautiful as-is, and glad that my guy likes me in my natural state. I rarely ever wear makeup either, and he prefers me without makeup too (unlike the guy in