Hulk was far too big of a hit with audiences, and he’ll (wisely) never be cut for that reason.
Black Panther has a movie in pre-production. He seems likely. Ditto for Doctor Strange, though not until Avengers 3. Coulson could be resurrected as Vision.
I just came in to say my fondest hope is that Joss would take the well-deserved and long overdue megabucks he’s gonna make from this and bring back “Firefly.”
The first Avengers lineup change occurred when they swapped out the Hulk for Captain America in Avengers #4. By Avengers #16, no members who had appeared in Avengers #1 were still a part of the team.
Considering that every Marvel story happens on a ten-year sliding time line (e.g., the Fantastic Four formed in 2002, not 1961), that means the original lineup barely worked together for any time at all.
I would love the Vision, but the people pushing Ms Marvel are right We need a woman on the team with actual superpowers. I have strong doubts about how well the Wasp size changing would work in a live action film and the Scarlet Witch doesn’t seem right to me without the whole Magneto and Quicksiver stuff.
Plus Ms Marvel would be plausibly easier to introduce without having to do a setup movie. In Avengers 2 Just have her as a Shield agent who gets exposed to something in the course of the action (Tesseract/Alien tech/Asgardian magic/etc) and aquires superpowers in time for the climax.
And in Avengers #20, someone else altogether joins up and gets kicked out in the same issue!
Strictly speaking, the Scarlet Witch does not have ‘Magic’ powers. Her powers are probability alteration. Some of the effects of her “hexes” are not always desirable, however. Could get interesting.
The Vision has always been one of my old favorites, and I don’t care how you get him into the movie. He could always just show up and then we learn his backstory later.
True. However, Stark could upgrade Black Widow’s equipment – give her the wrist mounted “widow’s bite” and grappling line, and create special gloves and boots to give her “wall-crawling” abilities.
“These are great,” BW says after trying them out. “What gave you the idea?”
Stark shrugs and gestures with his everpresent glass of booze. “I heard about this guy --”
The Widow cuts him off. “Yeah, I heard of him, too. I don’t believe a word of it.”
Hawkeye’s problem isn’t that he hasn’t been given enough time to shine, it’s that he’s a guy with a bow and arrow, while Thor is the Norse god of strength, storms and kicking ass.
First, fuck tokenism. If you can’t justify Black Panther being on the team on his own merits, he sure as hell shouldn’t be there just because he’s African.
Second, why the hell doesn’t Thor count? Who he dates is more important than who he is?
I voted for the second option, “Six is the perfect number. Don’t cut or add anybody.” Whedon did a fantastic job of giving everybody pretty much the same amount of screentime, with a fine mix of action, dialogue, moments of awesome and character development. Adding more superheroes would be too much; taking someone away would be a shame.
Nightcat, Street Poet Ray, and U.S.-1.
I voted for 6 too. They were able to tell almost everyone’s story coherently in this movie. Don’t screw it up so fast, give it one more movie and one more baddie for this time before adding/subtracting. With Thanos, there will likely be too much of his backstory to overcome, so no need to squeeze another hero into the mix.
Now that I think about it, they should put in Tigra. I think that fans deserve a hot woman who looks like a cat running around in the movie.
And so was created the highest-grossing movie of all time: AVATAR-VENGERS.
And yet he very nearly brought down the Helicarrier with a single shot, stormed the Helicarrier all the way to the bridge with impunity, killed dozens of Chitauri, was a key player in their battle strategy in Manhattan, and handed Iron Man the solution to killing the scads of Chitauri that were on his tail.
Have you even seen the movie? Because I’ve only heard the “LOL, he’s just got a bow” stuff from guys that haven’t. The whole point of Avengers isn’t just an assembly of Marvel’s flying bricks. It’s about teamwork and niche roles and feats of derring-do. The sum is greater than the parts, and it’s not an issue that one member is seeming dwarfed by another.
Well, he’s not one of “Earth’s Mightiest” at all, except in so far as he’s chosen to identify with Earth. And in so far as he’s chosen to identify with any nation of Earth, it’s the US. But fine, even if we do count him (and Black Widow) as non-American, that’s still two-thirds of a team representing an entire planet that all comes from a single nation.
And there is actually precedent for that already in the continuity. It was a throwaway line to appease physics nerds, but there’s a bit about some of Stark’s tech working by manipulating quantum tunneling, which would probably fall under the umbrella of probability alteration.
If you want to introduce Ultron, the movie continuity already contains one tech “genius” whose inventions routinely fail in spectacularly dangerous ways: Justin Hammer. You got to figure if that guy ever tried to replicate Jarvis, he’s pretty much guaranteed to end up with Ultron.
Nice call. I’d love to see Rockwell in a sequel. Supposedly he’s not in Iron Man 3.
It seems to me that none of the characters suggested here are big enough names to appeal to mainstream audiences. I love comic book movies (but not comic books); I’ve seen all of the Marvel predecessors to The Avengers; I’ve seen The Avengers and I’m planning to go again this weekend. However, in reading this thread, I’ve had to Wikipedia Thanos, War Machine, and Black Panther. (In the mid-credits scene in The Avengers, I thought the baddie who is apparently this Thanos chap was the Hugo Weaving character from Captain America.) I haven’t even bothered looking up any of the alternative characters suggested in the OP’s poll.
My point is, none of the characters ya’ll are mentioning is going to even be a familiar name to someone who doesn’t read comic books. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll go see Avengers 2 no matter who is in it (although a healthy dose of Chris Hemsworth is preferred), but none of these possibilities will be a draw for a mainstream crowd. A big part of the draw of a sequel is going to see characters you already know and like. I think it would be a mistake for the next movie to tinker with the cast too much. I do think that the next movie could expand on Cobie Smulders’s character.
No really strong opinion about adding/subtracting/switching primary characters around but I would love to see a cameo of Bruce Campbell as Wonder Man. They would have to CGI some muscles on him to make it work but that smirk, that attitude, that CHIN - perfect!
I haven’t seen The Avengers yet, so I’m sorry if the movie addresses this in some way. If the team is asseembled by S.H.I.E.L.D. as the earlier movies imply, and S.H.I.E.L.D. is a U.S. government agency (as the Strategic Homeland Something or Other in Iron Man) does it not make sense that the team it assembled and probably administers to some extent is a mostly American outfit?
As I haven’t seen the movie, I can’t say if any characters did or didn’t work, but just from a comic book nerd perspective, I’ve never liked the Hulk in super-teams. An uncontrollable force of destruction just doesn’t feel like he should be a team player. Hank Pym as Goliath/Giant Man or similar could fill the same big muscle role pretty well in addition to all his scientific know-how.
If you’re going to have Ultron and not bring Hank Pym into the mythos (which i think you shouldn’t) then surely Tony Stark should be the creator.
After his recent experiances (manually piloting a nuke into a dimensional gateway) he decides that drone idea from Iron Man 2 to do the really dangerous stuff might not be a bad idea (and it’ll make Pepper happier).
“I just need to upgrade the AI a little so i don’t have to…Oops”. Instant Ultron and it could still have Paul Bettanys voice.