I think for me it was when my Dad died of a heart attack watching The Red Wedding.
No, on second thought it was when they killed Shaggydog.
Cowgirl, wasn’t it?
Burning all those people to death on Dragonstone when they wouldn’t embrace the Lord of Light, and assassinating Renly with a smoke baby, didn’t bother you a teensy bit?
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I laughed at this and now I feel like a terrible person. Like, Melisandre terrible.
I chose book Ned because his death re-calibrated my whole outlook on, like, life. All other deaths after Ned’s just reinforced my new outlook on life.
Thanks Chronos. Had to look up incel because of it.
Anyway, I actually posted my comment in the wrong thread. It was meant to be in the “GOT Heinous Characters “ thread, and was meant to be a somewhat humorous take on the path that the thread was on… which would conclude with just about every character being evil, depending on one’s perspective.
So the whole Little Finger becoming ambitious because of Cat was definitely a stretch. After all, Lysa was the true first domino to fall, under the guidance of the puppet master Little Finger. But the other parts are fair points about Cat. Why didn’t her own husband trust her with his secret about Jon Snow? It certainly would have saved a lot of family stress. Why did Cat hate Jon Snow his whole life? He was just a baby when he got to Winterfell. Shouldn’t her gripe be with Ned? It’s like she hated him for just being born. Is that any different than Cersei’s hatred of Tyrion? Jon surely left for the wall because his “father” would be leaving for King’s Landing. If Jon was still in Winterfell, I don’t think Theon invades it while Robb is at war. And of course, letting Jaime go.
No, Jon was sent to the Wall because that’s the only way Robert wouldn’t see him as a threat and have him killed if someone worked out the truth. That’s what the “We’ll talk about your mother when I get back.” line was about, it would be safe to tell him who he really is once he’s taken the Black.
If I recall correctly, the Wall was also the socially approved place to send bastards. It got them out of the way, and if they left, they were executed. It helped keep lines of succession less messy (HA).
Neither did George R. R. Martin.
That’s a good comparison I hadn’t picked up on.
Ned was her lord and master, by Westerosi law and custom, and had given her a wonderful family otherwise. She loved him. She wasn’t going to hate on him, under the circumstances. But Jon was there in her household, day after day reminding her (as she thought) of her husband’s unfaithfulness to her. Women hating the children by other women of their men is an old, old trope.
Perhaps. But in fairness to Cersei, her mother did literally die when Tyrion was born. As despicable as it is to blame a baby, you could at least understand how a small child could blame the baby brother for taking her mother away, and that it could last into adulthood. Cat was already an adult when Jon was born. You’d think she’d be a bit more enlightened than a small child.
Savage.
Jon chose of his own accord to join the Night’s Watch, and of course at the time only Ned knew the truth. Robert never hinted at thinking Jon a threat. Jon is impressed by his uncle Ben, the First Ranger, and the Watch is a place he can go and be treated only according to his talents.
Lyanna Mormont. I wanted her to at least survive, and maybe wind up on the Iron Throne.
Shireen. I just didn’t expect what they showed. I thought someone would save her! And the begging and screaming, I had to turn it off. I don’t really develop attachments to characters so it might make me a little sad when one I like dies but that scene was just too much for me as a mama bear.