Nope, but if you believe the stats are wildly incorrect, it’s up to you to show that.
You’ve misunderstood my point.
The statistics are being tortured to support the way the police interact with the Black community. “even if it’s not their fault” the theory goes " it’s a fact that Blacks commit crimes at 2X the rate of Whites and therefore justifies a different approach." But that’s not really what the statistics show. If a Black man and a white man are standing side by side, and you are sure one of them has committed a violent crime, and knew nothing else about them, then you would be justified in assuming it was the Black man.
But, if you don’t know that a crime has been committed then the odds are against you, as both men have a less than 5% chance that they are a criminal. And that is exactly the problem. The white man is treated as if he’s not a criminal, while the Black is treated as if he is.
Let’s put it this way.
It is a fact that 100% of mothers who kill their children are females. Armed with that info should you approach every female as a potential child killer? Of course not. That would be ridiculous.
Well, it’s just as ridiculous to approach every Black person as a potential criminal.
No you wouldn’t. I get what you’re trying to say, but no. Just no. You would be justified in declining to come to a conclusion. You would be justified in conducting an investigation. You would not, however, be justified in assuming it was “the Black man.”
The idea that one is ever justified in coming to a conclusion about individuals based on scant or sketchy information about groups is precisely the sort of crockery used by “scientific” racists to try and “justify” their beliefs.
Of course your right.
My point was that the statistics are only meaningful in a specific way, not as a general rule.
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Pictures?
I always thought confetti was only for when Delores Reborn scores a Feud.
Also, how about that ZPG_Zealot? She really sucks, right?
Here’s a thread on Reddit where lots of people explain why they hate gypsies. Maybe it’ll even make you feel some sympathy for ZPG_Zealot.
Why? She’s in Texas, not Europe. Plus, she’s a lunatic.
Well, if she lived in Europe, I would. And to be honest, she’s a ferocious bigot and I can’t sypathize with that.
My wife’s family are Jewish. Her grandmother literally survived the camps. THEY don’t scream the N-word at black people who say “hello” to them.
And there’s the crux of it that some posters are still missing.
No matter what one person has experienced (and in this case, I think most are agreed that offering handshakes is no basis for offense, at least in the US), it does not in any way excuse racism expressed directly at other people for any reason. Sympathy is one thing, but some posts in this thread have veered awfully close to trying to excuse that sort of behavior for totally nonsensical reasons.
And I’ll note this is, to this point, entirely hypothetical sympathy. Given ZPG_Zealot’s posts, claims of experiencing bigotry herself are to be taken with a block of salt. Not to say that some Roma may or may not experience such in the US, but this particular poster has totally given up any right to benefit of any doubt.
Whenever I happen to notice ZPG post, my immediate thought is: “Huh. What’s this lunatic is up to now.” (click)
I’ve seen some pretty awful behavior first hand too, at least some of these stories are not exaggerated. But who’s really responsible for this? It seems to me that it’s a vicious cycle of these people getting fucked, saying fuck you back to society at large, bringing more hatred, more distrust etc. But I’ll reiterate that even if the roots of the problem lie in historic racism, I think the fundamental problem now is that the itinerant lifestyle is just not compatible with the modern social contract. I don’t see how you can break this cycle other than by giving them opportunity and assistance to settle and integrate.
I agree with the first part but not the second - if anything, modern life is ideally suited to an itinerant lifestyle, since you can do nearly everything remotely now. So someone with the right skills could do any number of jobs from the comfort of their caravan, provided they could get a decent internet connection - the physical location of the caravan wouldn’t matter. Of course, “with the right skills” is the key point here. There is probably more that institutions like banks, governments etc could do to support people without a permanent residential address.
By doing that you’re asking them to give up their culture, or at least significant parts of it. Dunno how realistic that is. Some of the communist governments forced them to settle, but they just ended up living in ghettos. The distrust with the dominant community remained.
The itinerant lifestyle is also not very compatible with getting a good education, and nor is one typically valued by those communities. So indeed having the right skills is a big problem. The fact @ZPG_Zealot went to university and wasn’t already married at that age is quite contrary to the stereotypes.
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Saying hello to someone isn’t the same as hitting on them. Making sexual advances to a woman whose made it damn clear she doesn’t want to hear it is despicable. It’s a level of extreme sexism that deserves the vilest insult imaginable. I sometimes wish there were terms for other races and ethnic groups that could convey the level of raw hatred and contempt as the term nigger does.
And that deserves a hearty Fuck You.
Vile insults directed at the individual? Go ahead (though you still have yet to demonstrate any evidence of sanity otherwise to indicate they actually deserve it outside your fevered dreams).
Vile insults directed at a group the individual is associated with? You are a terrible, terrible person and the world would be a better place if the putrescence that exists within your soul were plainly visible to people who saw you.
Well, there’s the preface for your memoirs, get writing!
You know what’s really vile: allowing sexual harassment because responding in equal force would injury some asshole’s delicate feelings (though he had no such empathy for the woman). In current language, “Fuck you” doesn’t have the firepower it use to. Not ti mention that the man has already use equivalent of such language to me.
Racists call black people by racial slurs. Non racists never do, for any reason. You’re an admitted racist, and an ally of white supremacists. I’m sure they’d hate you too, but they’ll welcome your assistance on demeaning and dehumanizing black people.
Self-defense has to be accomplished by any means necessary. It’s not racist to hate assholes and use whatever weapons are at your disposable to fight them.