When I caught my son bringing a knife to school, he absolutely got a dressing-down (and every knife I was aware of or able to find confiscated).
I think that if anyone has a point to prove, this is a bad case to use to prove it.
Having played sports in Texas many, many years ago, if someone from another school, particularly the rival we were playing, were to sit in our area it would have pissed us off. I suppose race might have been a motivating factor here, but the conflict started with a breach of etiquette. Though I’m certain Miss Manners would not approve of getting physical to remedy the breach.
I mentioned upthread the question of why/how the kid ended up in the opposite tent. I know I’ve not seen any info on that.
Coulda been invited, or innocent, or stupid, or clueless, or malicious. Those various possibilities might not alter what the team did, but would sure alter his expectations of what the team might do.
Yeah, I have much the same concerns. I said earlier in the thread that there seem to be mitigating factors that should make any sentencing more lenient than otherwise (if he’s actually guilty; it’s possible that he may have legally defended himself depending on the way their law is written and various details we don’t know yet). I worry about his race, the fact that this is Texas and they practically deify their high school/college athletes, and so on. I hope he can get a fair treatment.
All that being said, he did kill someone over what seems like a petty reason (with the info we know) so while I have my concerns and hope the law is fair, at the same time I don’t think he’s a saint and don’t have all of the sympathy in the world for him either.
Like a lot of things in life this is a bit complicated.
I agree.
I do wonder how many of the pro-Karmelo, or even anti-Austin, posters are simply trolls. Nobody on the Internet knows you’re a dog, KWIM?
Did he say why he did it?
nearwildheaven, you’re sounding… a bit weird here.
First you speculate, with absolutely no evidentiary support, that the stabber was some kind of “budding serial killer” or “mass shooter”.
Now you assert, with absolutely no evidentiary support, that you think he’ll violate the terms of his release on bail.
Why would any of this be true? ISTM that absolutely nothing more is required to explain this situation than a violent altercation between two adolescent boys in which one of them completely overreacted with unjustified assault with a deadly weapon, fatally injuring his antagonist.
Isn’t that sufficiently worthy of condemnation all by itself? Why are you trying to amp up this teen’s act of criminal violence with gratuitous speculations of additional nefarious behavior?
You seem really invested in the hypothesis that this (black) teenager is some kind of fundamentally amoral sociopath whose behavior is bound to be chronically criminal. Rather than a reasonably normal kid who got violently angry this one time and did something horrifically wrong, but understands very well that further lawbreaking in his current situation would massively deepen the shit he’s already in.
THIS story has got to be seen to be believed. Hang on tight. If the races were reversed, something like this would fit right in on a website like stormfront dot org.
I’d like to know where that alleged picture of Austin and his twin brother with AR15s appeared, and who Photoshopped it, among other things. Also, the latest story is that the Anthony family is going to use their GSG money, now north of $400,000, to relocate because they’re tired of the harassment. Good heavens.
I mean, that seems to be what they were going for:
Whether this article, about this kid’s death, is an appropriate way to make that point - that’s certainly up for discussion - but if all you have to say is “that’s racist”, I think the author would probably answer “Yes it is, isn’t it?”.
?? That’s quite a take you’ve got there. You do know that content on stormfront, dot org and its ilk is full of actual explicit racial slurs and racist vituperation, right?
The linked article, by contrast, isn’t saying anything like that. It’s just critiquing the typical media double standard in coverage of violent deaths of black and white Americans, and asking what it would be like if the white victim’s family in this case received the same suspicious scrutiny that black victims’ families generally get. (In the process, the article also points out that there are false accusations circulating about the white victim.)
That’s the sort of rhetoric you unironically claim is characteristic of a full-on racist hate site like freaking storm front?!? Seriously?!
No, there is nothing whatsoever racist or specifically anti-white about the language of that article.
Is the article bitter in tone about the systemic cultural and media bias that tends to present white victims more sympathetically than black ones? Absolutely.
Is the article perhaps too credulous about allegations and purported evidence of various kinds of teenaged misbehavior on the part of the stabbing victim? Very possibly; I think it’s going to take a long time before the social-media dust settles on this issue and we learn definitively which rumors and accusations against whom had what kind of factual basis, if any.
Is the article perhaps giving the stabber too much benefit of the doubt about whatever provocation he was reacting to? Also very possible. As I’ve said, from the incident-report data currently available there seems to be no excuse or justification whatsoever for Anthony’s responding to being physically assaulted by fatally stabbing his adversary. However much “heat of the moment” may have been going on, he has voluntarily taken himself right out of the running for being considered the most aggrieved party in this situation. “Stand Your Ground” is a bullshit reason for escalating confrontation, and Anthony absolutely needs to be held accountable for his actions by the courts.
But saying that this article is in any way comparable to stormfront-type racist propaganda is just unhinged. Of course it isn’t any such thing.
It appears that Anthony’s family has been the target of threats, which the city of Frisco is investigating. AFAICT the (Black) judge who reduced Anthony’s bond and allowed him to be released under house arrest has also been subjected to threats and doxxing, currently being looked into by the FBI. It seems likely that people would indeed get “tired” of “harassment” such as that.
There appears to be no indication whatever that anybody else in Anthony’s family, or for that matter Judge Tucker, has done anything illegal, however indefensibly criminal the behavior of Anthony himself may have been. So why can’t all these self-appointed vigilantes just leave them the hell alone and mind their own business?
For that matter, there’s no proof yet that Anthony himself did anything illegal. We don’t have all the information yet, and it’s still possible that this really was a justified case of self-defense. Do I think it’s likely? Probably not… but when there’s any doubt at all that a white man might have killed a black man in self-defense, the police refuse to even arrest the white man.
That’s true, although I think it’s very reasonable to conclude from the available information that he most probably did, even if there is as yet no legal finding on the matter. There’s legal standard of proof, and then there’s rational estimation of likelihood based on critical examination of reasonably presumed facts.
But the sort of tabloidesque sensationalism that nearwildheaven appears to be getting his coverage of this situation from is a very far cry from mere rational estimation of guilt. There’s a hysterical media smear campaign headlining Anthony as “Killer Teen”, referring to his defense attorney as his “fixer”, fuming that Judge Tucker let Anthony “go free” and that his family is “getting a new house for murdering a white boy”, and similar fart-huffing outrage fuel.
Newsfolk, if you don’t like being suspected of racism, then maybe don’t fall all over yourselves to immediately put the worst possible construction on any action taken by even law-abiding black people?
On this, you and I will definitely agree.
On reading this I was expecting the black teen to be an inner city poor black kid–but it seems he is middle or upper middle class.
Karmelo Anthony has not withdrawn funds from his nearly $450,000 GiveSendGo fundraiser … even after he walked free from the slammer on a $250K bond Monday.
Jacob Wells, cofounder of the popular crowdsourcing platform, tells TMZ no funds have been distributed, as the company receives “clarity from the campaign recipient on use of funds so that the people that have given can be confident in how their donation is being used.”
The revelation comes while folks question how Anthony satisfied his $250,000 bond – which a judge reduced from $1 million – and how his family is covering his legal costs as the 17-year-old faces a first-degree murder charge in the stabbing death of Austin Metcalf at their Frisco, Texas track meet earlier this month … all while allegedly living in a $900,000 rental home.
When DailyMail.com visited the home Tuesday, a white Suburban, a black Acura and a third sedan were parked in the driveway.
One resident told DailyMail.com the family just purchased a new vehicle. ‘He got a new car. If you look at the license plate, it’s got a paper tag and it says it expires June 4,’ the resident, who asked to remain anonymous, shared.
Because…?
Schools encouraging “school spirit” and cross-school rivalries is a very toxic thing in the first place. Very easy to cross the line from “let’s have fun playing against each other” to “this is your enemy, hate them”.
Most schools don’t allow knives on campus.
I thought Anthony was the stabee, not the stabber.
Or am I missing some details here?