The SAME Gary Parker writer of “Dry Bones” where he attempts to show how fossils come from the great flood? :rolleyes:
Color me unimpressed.
The bible would have mentioned the oddity of different races appearing all of the sudden. Unless you want to bring back the old full of prejudiced chestnut of the mark of Cain being black skin.
I’m inclined to doubt the Catholics have anything shocking. Can you speculate for us? What do you think is the most mind-blowing bit of information the Vatican has?
You know, I can accept that people have ridiculous ideas about miracle cures of disease (okay, it offended me a little), or the origins of life, human diversity, the fossil record and a lot of other things, but when they start spouting Da Vinci Code-style craziness, that’s much worse.
Jesus… was a Jew!!!
Yes, it does.
No, it isn’t. It’s considered to be science.
So why is it in a forum entitled ‘Great Debates?’.
You said it.
Then you are in the wrong place. The basic idea around here is to fight ignorance, not spread it around. It’s not about making stuff up. It’s about sorting the stuff that’s true from the stuff that isn’t. But I welcome your admission that you simply don’t care about this distinction, a point which your other posts have made abudantly clear.
The Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 million light-years away.
It can be faintly seen outside a city. Can you explain why god made more impressive scenery (and early) that the spot where we are right now?
Not to mention that the evidence shows stars (the sun) were created first.
Of course, however the evidence shows that Prometheus was giving fire to hominids 250,000 years ago. 
Mostly, lots of bulls
Good, because it was the early Catholic church that decided to put the book of Revelation in the New Testament.
Now why then later Christians then want to use that book to justify hate against the ones that put the book there in the first place is really weird.
I don’t believe your intentions are to criticize us. While others have asked us to prove God exists, they only said that because they know we can’t physically prove that. It’s not like they’re actually expecting us to post a picture of us having with God at the Red Lobster with the caption “Then God said… Let there be butter”. I mean… even if I could ask God to manifest Himself before non-believers… anyone who actually was able to look upon God would instantly be vaporized because of His absolute perfection and holiness. Anything we could possibly use as evidence could be proven with science as well… which only makes sense because God created everything including science and physics and math.
I greatly appreciate and respect the amount of respect you are showing and giving to us by treating us like humans. The others have seemed to display an attitude that makes us look like we evolved from apes.
First and foremost(even though I came back and typed this last)… thank you, Nine. That was well written and well said, and while I do compute what ianzin was asking, I could find no way to answer him/her until after I read your post. With that said…
Kanic and I aren’t making a stand for our beliefs just because we simply believe and have faith. We have experienced the Love of God, and that is why we believe and have our faith.
I cannot prove the existence of God to anyone through my own abilities. I can show or tell you why I believe and have faith, but the only way for a non-believer to have their own, satisfying, concrete evidence of the existence of God would be to experience it. That is the one thing they don’t want to do, though. To experience it and see proof, you have to believe it, and non-believers simply refuse to believe. How is that a believer’s fault?
So if you can’t get a satisfying shred of evidence from Kanic or I about the existence of God, don’t blame us. Blame yourself. Kanic and I can only do so much and only have so much within our abilities to work with… but at least we’re using what we’ve got.
Which you did. So did everybody else you know.
Isn’t that kind of a passive-aggressive attitude for a follower of an almighty god to take? I’d never speak about my own deity that way.
Why have several of you tried to make me look like I’m racist when I’m not. Are all people who don’t agree with me African-American or Jewish? Are you all African-Americans? I doubt it, simply because they are a minority, and I highly doubt that everyone posting except me is a Jewish Negroid anti-Christ. AND NO! I was not being racist by using Negroid. Negro and Negroid are acceptable when not used in a hateful slandering manner or when used historically or scientifically. I was using it in scientific context.
If you choose to believe humans are the descendant of a type of ape-like creature, that is what you choose to believe. I’m not going to attempt to disagree with you because I know that God created all things and I also know that there are a lot, and I do mean A LOT, of different animals that do not exist (ASFAWK) today. However, I believe that God created the first parents from the dust of the Earth and all humans since were a result of them, as the Bible says… however, the creation account in Genesis chapters 1 and 2 are slightly different, and if anyone is interested I will gladly show you verse by verse why I believe that evolution and creation can co-exist, and explain to you my theory of how all of humankind can have both ape-like ancestors AND two first parents and why there is a missing-link.
It is God’s job to prove himself to the person, in that respect it’s not my job, nor Lacunas Quell’s. What is my job is doing the task God wants to work through me - including some posts and exchanges, which may or may not bring someone to Him. He decides, if we try to circumvent that it will fail.
God must get the glory.
And the blame.
I have mentioned on two occasions that personal insults are not part of this forum’s practice.
This is an official Warning that you are out of line. Stop the insults or find some other board to post.
[ /Moderating ]
There is really no way to ignore that this peculiar taxonomy does assume that some humans are better than others, and by divine right no less.
Depending on what you mean by better, there are differences, not on the person so much but their position of authority which is God ordained. Free or slave, some have a divine right to benefit from the labor of others till the time for God to make the oppressors the oppressed. Also some are ‘mighty men’, others are divinely anointed. Fallen humanity is full of inequalities.
Just because the Bible only mentions Cain, Able, and Seth doesn’t mean that Adam and Eve didn’t have more children. Obviously Cain and Seth got their wives from somewhere, so quite obviously Adam and Eve had more than 3 children(and yes, Cain was married to his sister).
Sh!t… if you could have unprotected sex for over 800 years, I believe you’d be making lots of babies too. Sex was just as enjoyable then as it is today… and God also commanded them to be fruitful and multiply… in fact, that was God the very first thing God said to Adam and Eve after creating them.
Genesis 1:27-28(paraphrased)
God created a creature like Him, man was created in the image of God. God created both the male and the female.
Then God blessed them and said to them "Fuck. I promise you’ll like it. Do it a lot. Eve, when your stomach starts to bulge, don’t be frightened. That’s just another man growing inside you. Sure it’s gonna hurt like a bitch when something the size of a watermelon squeezes out of something the size of a lemon, but that’s why I created sex and made it feel so good. Make lots of men and with them rule over all of My creation.
In response to Cain being black… perhaps he was, but just because he could have been black has nothing to do with why he killed his brother. The Bible doesn’t say “And because Cain was black he killed his brother”.
The Bible mentions three of Noah’s sons that were a different color from one another. In the short time from Adam to Noah (950 years, Noah was born 20 years after Adam died) there were already at least three different skin colors.
Perhaps I should rephrase what I meant by the Vatican library. What I meant was the Vatican secret archives which contains 150,000 manuscripts.
Historical and credible documentation of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
…and we’re down the rabbit hole.
So you have read this secret document?
I just noticed this thread, and already someone beat me to it.
Cool story bro 