Say by not giving us free will or anything to choose?
I think questions like this one lead me back to , why create anything at all?
I don’t know. But here we are, and what are we going to do with it today?
Makes you wonder why we don’t do something about it doesn’t it?
`I don’t know what you mean by “glory”,’ Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don’t – till I tell you. I meant “there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!”’
`But “glory” doesn’t mean “a nice knock-down argument”,’ Alice objected.
When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.’
It is uncertain if some of humanity will suffer till the end of time. But to your Q I would say probably not, the glory to God will be by the part of humanity that freely chooses God.
Here is what many take as a end time prediction
Going back to the drop of water and the ocean analogy. Breaking down a single drop isn’t it in essence exactly the same stuff as ocean. Yet one drop is not the same thing as the ocean. In the Bible the analogy of the body is used. We each are parts of the same body. Now we know that each cell in the body contains the same DNA, but the cells preform different functions. Yet it’s not for any cell to claim it is superior to the other cells.
We use end of time and eternity, but they are terms that still denote time. I tend to think that God is *timeless *. As in, time doesn’t exist. If it doesn’t exist then there is no end of time.
An absence of pain and suffering doesn’t necessarily mean change can’t exist.
Sorry cosmosdan for the confusion, end times as I use it refers to the tribulation to the second coming of Jesus. The battle described in Ps 2 is frequently attributed to the battle at Armageddon.
There is a difference between unable to screw up and unwilling. Look at the life of Jesus to see what it would be like.
Possibly. How exactly do you see a complete lack of pain and suffering while change still exists? No more illness? No more death, even by accidents? How about just disappointment? Do people age? Do they become infirm?
There wasn’t any confusion. I understood your references. I was just offering a different perspective. I don’t anticipate any second coming as in the traditional doctrine.
Ok got you, and I agree that God in ‘timeless’ in a sense.
That comes later after we learn not to hurt ourselves.
I was thinking more in terms of people’s’ brutality to one another. Are war and genocide are part of God’s plan for us?
Alright, if that ever happens I owe you a Coke.
Why can’t I edit my own posts?
Just a stranger on the bus?
Speak For Yourself, Mortal.
You’re a guest; only paying members can edit. And only for five minutes at that.
At the bottom of the Marianas Trench. In the 1960s.