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If you wish to deride the quality of his argument you have to be honest about it.
Are you seriously suggesting that the vast majority of obese people have genetic disorders or diseases that have led to them being obese?
I think it would be pretty safe to say that the majority of obese people are that way because they don’t exercise enough and eat too much, both of which can be solved as easily as the smoker stopping smoking.
While I don’t agree with his statement in the original OP at all, I think he is right to believe that if he had made the comment about smokers no-one would have cared. They are routinely described in those kinds of terms.
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Of course, you and WhyNot are right. I think I got some stupid on me after reading his post. I wasn’t being articulate enough.
I was mostly riled by his statement of comparing smoking to being fat. I’ll freely admit that most obesity is due to lazyness and over-eating, but smoking is a choice that no one ever has to make.
I would also argue, that when it comes to smoking, it’s the habit I find disgusting, not the person. But since being fat changes the appearance of the person, you can’t argue that eating is disgusting and not the person. He saying fat people look disgusting, and should be taxed for it. Then arguing the exact same rules apply to smoking. I call bullshit.
Also, there are degrees of obesity. I’m simply 15 lbs overweight. Do I get taxed? Am I disgusting? If so, fuck that guy. What do I do, get on a scale before I order a Whopper?
When you’re a smoker, there’s not as much subjectivity there. Either you’re a smoker, or you’re not (granted, some people can smoke every so often, but still, most smokers make a real habit out of it).
So what I was getting at before, was besides all this, there are some issues that prevent people from losing weight. Especially for the morbidly obese. I think even if I tried to gain 150-200 more lbs, I couldn’t. My WAG is there’s something else at work there. (but I could be wrong)