Why cops and their unions don't care about the public

Keep saying it. It doesnt change the horrific reality that is going on in the U.S. Cops are things and goons. If they are not doing the actual crime, then they are conspirators in covering it up.

If the websites added in the OT and the free Whoppers they get in uniform, the pay would be there. Keep your head in the sand and avoid the rath of Johnny Law.

Lots of hilarious hijinks regarding pay and pension. I really like the last one. Real classy guys.

Speaking as the son of a firefighter (and he devoted 26 years of his life to saving others), I can confidently say that he never made $100k in ANY year. In fact, he normally had a second job before he retired, and also had one to supplement his pension. When he died, he was involved in a class-action suit against the city of Louisville over unpaid vacation/overtime funds due him and other civil servants. When that suit was settled (approximately 14 years after it was filed, if I remember correctly), his share of the settlement was just over $100k. And that was for over a decade of being denied money he had legitimately earned, and the interest that accrued during that span.

This is kind of a sticky issue with me. Firefighters and police don’t get paid nearly enough for all the crap they have to put up with. Especially when uninformed, whiny little bitches like yourself don’t think they deserve compensation for risking their lives to save yours.

So, in the words of our dear Clothahump, fuck off, OP.

Thank your dad for his service and for not being one of the many who raped and pilaged the system to their benefit. Fuck you Cardinal bitch.

I was born in Indiana, so that’s “fuck you, Hoosier bitch” to you

Savage, brutal, barbaric acts. Yes we should completely trust them.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/opinion/the-police-killed-my-unarmed-son-in-2012-im-still-waiting-for-justice.html?

Thank you for the extra info. I have no problem paying the good ones. It is the pieces of shit that don’t deserve to be outside of a prison that fuck it up for everyone.

But that metric can be applied to literally anyone: doctors, pizza delivery guys, school bus drivers, teachers, and valet parkers, as just a few examples. You singled out civil servants, so I read it as you having some sort of specific issue with ALL of them. That was my point, that there are bad people in every vocation, and there are genuinely good ones out there, too.

Apologies if I came across snippish initially. It seemed like you were not differentiating between the two, and, while my father was a lot of things, not all of them nice, I know the integrity he had for that job. So I tend to get a little…reactionary when I think he’s being maligned.

Is the voice shouting “POLICE!” inaudible in the dark?

It was a no-knock raid and they were coming in through the window. It’s entirely probable that they hadn’t announced that they were police when the shots were fired. But even if they had, boy is that a convenient tip for home intruders!

Police action should not be indistinguishable from a home invasion.

You would prefer that, in a volatile situation where the suspects may be armed and dangerous and in a position to destroy the evidence, the SWAT team should ring the doorbell, politely fold their hands behind their back, and say “Hello, sir or madam, may we please come in?”

This is a bit like asking, “You would prefer that heroin addicts be given opiates for free, then?” in response to a proposed change in policy that decriminalizes heroin and sets up rehab centers. It misses about half of the cost-benefit analysis. On one hand, no-knock raids may help deal with cases where people would destroy the evidence or could be dangerous. On the other hand, they are a disgusting violation of our 4th-amendment rights, there’s little to no recourse when the police department screws up, the standards for a no-knock raid are way too low, and the result is people killed, maimed, and forced into impossible situations. So what should we do about that?

I would prefer they don’t break down the wrong door.

Good job taking down that straw man! Continue to defend cops breaking down the wrong doors and shooting babies and sleeping old people, by all means.

Tighten up the standards for when no-knock warrants can be executed.

I’m not quite sure if this counts as Godwin’s Law or not, but the Hitlerjugend were known for being so brainwashed into the cult that they couldn’t possibly, ever, never, see that any of their positions were seriously flawed. “If only you would please submit to wearing this nice, yellow star, everything will be okay!”

Yeah, I’m kind of getting this vibe from at least one Hitlerjugend in this thread.

You are excluding a fucking enormous middle here, with your continued assumptions that anyone who doesn’t want to shoot cops on sight must worship the very ground they walk on.

Even if cops are doing their job badly, they are doing their job. Don’t shoot them, challenge it in court later. It’s neither difficult nor complicated to understand that.

And perhaps learn to recognise what a police uniform looks like. Again, not particularly difficult.

So would they.

Some are. The vast majority are not. Just the same as any other group of people.

Your bizarre view that paying overtime is wrong is another strike against you in terms of taking you seriously.

Oh, and are you going to correct your false claim about me yet?

If a cop is doing their job poorly, the person might not be able to challenge it in court due to being DEAD!