Why is Liz Cheney taking this lying down?

Did I spell it with a ph?

And why would House Democrats want and trust someone who’s vehemently opposed to nearly everything they believe in to be sitting in their private strategy meetings?

This absolutely can not and will not happen.

She’s in a bind right now, but I stand behind her 100%. Not her politics, they’re only a little better that Trump Traitors. Right now she’s standing up for Truth, Justice, and the American Way® and for the time being her enemies in the GOP are my enemies. Well they were my enemies before, but now she’s not one of them. Go Liz, go! For now, anyway, we don’t want you to succeed too much, just get back to being a regular old fashioned noxious conservative.

Charles M. Blow makes a similar case (probably paywalled). A few highlights:

It is a good thing that Cheney is standing on principle and insisting on telling the truth. But that is quite the low bar for a heroine designation.

In that opinion piece, Blow says she’s a big fan of torture programs and was essentially encouraging the birthers, too.

I’m remain stunned that others in the party can’t clear the low bar of debunking an obvious lie that’s a real danger to our democracy.

Hilarious. She lay down with the pigs, and now she’s complaining that it doesn’t smell so good.

I can see the Repubs basically forcing her out, but the Democrats aren’t going to trust her farther than I can drop-kick a bowling ball.

She’s going out swinging, and I applaud (well, golf-clap) her for that, but unless she convinces a lot of longtime GOP donors, and I mean a lot of big donors to kick the GOP to the curb, she’s done. In the words of Lionel Tribbey, it’s time for her to write her book.

And right now in different State legislatures across the country, they are putting in place mechanisms to do just that. They will no longer put up with voters putting Democrats into positions of power; they are going to remove voting from the equation altogether. They’re not doing this in secret - it’s all right there for all to see.
Unfortunately, many simply don’t want to see it.

They KNOW it’s a danger to our democracy. They don’t care. Or rather, they see that if they want to gain complete power indefinitely, what they need to do is destroy fair elections. So that’s just what they’re trying to do. “Democracy”? That’s just a dirty word to them now, that is preventing them from gaining total power.

“If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”

  • David Frum, “Trumpocracy.”

This is a feature, not a bug.

I wish them luck. Just last week TLDR news had a video on the UK’s fringe parties. Not knowing that much about UK political history I was surprised the learn that today’s Liberal party is not the party of William Gladstone and Lloyd George but rather, what remains after a merger and spinoff (skip to 5:20 in the video). I can see the New Republican party winding up the same way.

From the end of a rope, that is.

Her efforts, 110% valid though they are are, about 1% of what’s needed about 8 years too late.

Schwarzenegger’s stirring Op Ed piece the day before the election was similar. Great words, well delivered at a critical juncture. But spitting at a speeding freight train compared to what’s needed to move the needle of reality.

I respect Schwarzenegger on this - he’s been entirely consistent on Trump.

Liz Cheney, not so much.

Newt Gingrich’s GOP and what later became the Tea Party probably fantasized daily about being able to rig elections and establish illiberal democracy; they just dared not say it in public. Donald Trump changed all that. He empowered the right wing authoritarians. You actually tell outrageous lies and use your power to rig the system - and still be competitive in elections. The part is now reconstituting itself around that idea. They are remaking themselves in that image.

I go back to the analogy of the Nazis of the 1920s. People thought that they were finished after the Beer Hall Putsch. But not even a decade later they had absolute power. They evolved. They waited for a crisis to exploit. That’s what Republicans are doing: waiting for a crisis that they can exploit, to justify their power grabs.

You know if you try to make that analogy, the Trumpers will just say it was the Left who exploited the crisis of Covid 19 to “grab” power. But at any rate, the Nazis didn’t grab power in the 1930’s any more than the Trumpers did or will: Hitler had his Franz Von Pappen, and so did Trump.

If Trump had handled the pandemic well, it would have made him look competent and improved his chances of re-election. The Left didn’t create the pandemic. And the Left didn’t tell Trump how to respond to it. That Trump failed to avert the crisis is no one’s fault but his.

And as I like to say when I see those names nowadays is that:

We are living now in a universe where a beefcake like Arnold is the smartest of the Republicans and a Cheney is the most ethical. :confused:

While that explanation is perfectly obvious to most of us here, it will never convince a single MAGAt because it violates the principle of Trumpian infallability.

He would have risen to the level of Il Duce who at least made the trains run on time. Trump’s legacy doesn’t even reach that far.

Not according to Mr. “I’m not responsible” himself.