Why is the "Dark Side" more powerful? (Star Wars)

Gotta go with this. My favorite bit from the documentary material in the DVD set of Episodes IV-VI is from Irvin Kershner, director of ESB. He says something like:

“For the religion and such? I see a lot of kids quoting Yoda and talking about how deep it is. I wish they would read more.”

Well, obviously, Lucas is just winging it. He’s a hack who figured he’d make a space adventure, and it took off, so he wringed a bunch of sequels out of it.

But you know, the fact that Arthur Conan Doyle slipped up and gave Dr. Watson two different first names and a war injury that always moves around doesn’t stop Sherlock Holmes fans from explaining those discrepencies away either.

I’m not saying fans can’t try to explain way discrepencies. Heck I do it with Buffy. But to attribute depth to Lucas is misguided.

True, but if someone argues one way I get to disagree. It doesn’t matter what the “truth” is, because there is no truth to worry about.

I don’t agree that the Force itself contains the corruption, but I would be willing to agree it might be that the Dark Side represents mortal evil.

Even when the Sith just barely began to scratch the surface of the Dark Side, before they were even the Sith, they fell into evil naturally.

It may be that it just wouldn’t help you even if you did. If they are sentient (well, on a tiny scale) and in-tune with the Force, it may be that they are simply attracted to Force users, and the greater the attraction, the greater the Midiclorians. Aside from which, they already said that without them “life could not exist”. Given that Jedi talent strides every species, it may well be true.

It is my feeling that Midichlorians (I hate their introduction…totally unnecessary) are not The Force themselves but rather a means for people who possess them to interact with The Force. The more you have the more Force you can channel.

Not sure it is relevant but I am reasonably certain that Annakin was a result of Immaculate Conception. That is, no man slept with Shmi Skywalker to produce Annakin. The story has it that Midichlorians produced the pregnancy. What this says about Midichlorians I have no clue. Are they conscious? Do they have an agenda? etc… About all you can say is that this makes Annakin pretty unique and, I think, gives him the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever, bar none. Why he puppets himself to Palpatine I do not know since he should have been able to stomp Palpatine (unless the accident that put him in his life support suit took him down a few notches making him merely bad ass and not uber-bad ass).

I see the Dark Side as the Star Wars version of Shiva.

Tracy Lord: I agree

Thank you! I wish more people would take the time to think about this before they all just complained that “OMG Lucas just ruined the Force by bringing science into it!”

First of all, it’s Anakin (Annakin drives me nuts!). Now, he didn’t take down Palpatine from the beginning because he was sure he would learn how to… uh, if you read the updates on Anakin and Palpatine, you decipher one little bit of spoiler: the reason Anakin turns dark.

Anakin dreams of Padme’s death at the moment of birth. He fears this is going to happen because the dream about his mother turned out to be true, as well. Palpatine promises he can teach him how to stop death, something Anakin wished for in Attack of the Clones. He is tempted to protect Padme, her being the only person he cares for.

What I don’t understand is why Anakin doesn’t retaliate once this obviously doesn’t work. Also, it shows Anakin does know he has a child, but why did he never search for him? Is he so consumed by the dark side that he doesn’t give a damn any more? Is that what the dark side does to you?

*The Dark Side Screws You Up.

This Is Your Brain.
This Is Your Brain on the Dark Side.

Why Do You Think They Call It The Dork Side?

Winners Don’t Join The Dark Side

Just Say No (to the dark side)*

I propose that Lucas is doing a whole drug awareness thing here. The exact plot of the next movie will make things clearer, but I’m prepared to bet that Anakin ends up desperately licking spilled midichlorians off the floor while Padme looks on horrified. And C3P0 gets hit a bit.

(that bit will make a lot more sense if you followed the Zammo storyline in Grange Hill)

I’m a little late to the game, but oh, well.

Shrinkage. :smiley:

He wouldn’t have the training, but he would have the looks, and midi files, kinda like the surviving Hitler clone in The Boys from Brazil.

Not individually, but within a clone of a high midied person.

No, everything else has it, but those poor rocks don’t get any midi.

yes.

At present, the servos controlling our microscopic lasers aren’t simply fast enough.

Yes, we can expect to see a cloud of them giving a beat-down to an anthropomorphic M&M, just like the M&M Minis do in the commercials. This is the purpose of the M&M tie-in adds on tv.

Yellowing skin, oddly colored eyes, shrinkage, and megalomania

Unlike dogs, yes, they can.

It wasn’t the Jews, or the Romans, it was them. Simon Magnus controlled them at the time.

To keep the beat

I simply do not know this one. I need to do intensive research on the subject. This message has been brought to you by the counsel to actually think through the idea, before adding an unnecessary concept.

Actually, seeing as how many mythological connections there are to Star Wars, I think Lucas did some reading up on mythological traditions of different cultures (especially Eastern religions) in devising the Force. 50s Westerns had little of the Force, seeing as how 50s Westerns didn’t really reference Eastern relgion.

You don’t even know the half of it:

Padme gets to be one of, if not the first victim of Vader’s famous Force choke.

Yeah, the Dark Side does that to you. Talk about one hell of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I haven’t been around a lot of Revenge of the Sith spoilers, but I highlighted this one out of curiousity.

…HOLY SHIT! :eek: DUUUUUUUUDE!

How accurate is that? I mean, come on:

Vader: So girl, where’s that little creation my army of midichlorians produce? Eh?
Padme: Hidden. From you.
Vader: Damn it, woman! snap

That and the fact that Vader’s on for about 6 minutes, if I’ve read correctly. All the spoilers I know come from the non-spoiler source in theforce.net. :stuck_out_tongue:

Whatever, man, how freaking COOL is that?

Star Wars: It may not make a hell of a lot of sense, but it makes you go “DUDE, AWESOME!”

Oh, my dear Homebrew, you have summarized so succinctly what I have been thinking for years: “I think you’re giving Lucas too much credit for having a coherent idea of what he was doing. The movies were great technical achievements. But as stories they were simply rehashed 50s westerns. They aren’t really that deep. What depth is there is brought to it by fans”.
When we took my father to see the original “Star Wars” in the theatre (I saw it in my 20s when it first came out), he turned to us and said something like - “why that’s just cowboys and Indians in space”.

Well, Anakin actually becomes Darth Vader for a good portion of the movie…he just isn’t in the suit until the end.

Quasi-spoiler ahead:

Yes, but supposedly his construction and “repair” is intercut with the birth of the twins. I’m not sure though.

This is true.