In a recent AI thread a few Dopers ragged on the group Creed a little.
I’m a non-rocker and I don’t understand what the problem with the group might be.
Possible reasons I’ve considered:
Creed is to rock as Fiddy is to rap.
They’ve become too mainstream so it’s elitist ro rag on them.
They suck.
Please share with a non-rocker. I grew up on Motown but I like Toto, Steely Dan, Joe Jackson and artists like that. (am I corny?)I like the Stones too. (yes, even the SB performance)
I’m not sure about others, but my only complaint is lead singer Scott Stapp’s Jesus posturing. Course, that’s only annoying if you’re *watching * them. I was never a huge fan, but I think they rocked pretty hard, at least in the begining. And I might have been the last person on earth to hear that they’re a Christian band, but even after learning that and checking out some of the lyrics, it didn’t sway my opinion. Someone more entrenched in the music scene will have much sharper insights than I.
And no, your musical tastes are not corny in the least. Okay, maybe Toto popped a few kernels in their day… 
I’ll take c, which doesn’t necessarily rule out a.
Creed is mediocre at best, and for a while they were everywhere. That’s a bad combination as far as I’m concerned.
They’re bland boring and generic. Plus I think the lead singer thinks he is Jesus and that grates on me. I hated that band from the second I saw them.
The lead singer sounds like he’s straining to make a bowel movement. That’s why I don’t like them. Also I don’t care for that ultra-emotional (i.e. cheesy) type of sweeping arena rock, Jesus-aligned or not.
Their videos are hilarious.
I don’t know what you mean by A), but for me it’s an essential combination of B and C. If they were just a no-name band that sucked, I’d still think they sucked but wouldn’t feel the need to let everyone know. But when they are a popular band that still sucks, and even worse, a popular influential band that sucks, well, I suppose I can keep my feelings to myself (that literally queasy feeling I get when I hear one of their songs on the radio*,) but it’s a lot more fun to let everyone know, and who knows, perhaps a bit of social engineering to get other people to not suck so much? Can’t hurt.
And as I said, influential. Within a year of hearing them it seemed that every other song on modern rock stations was their peculiar blend of third-wave pseudogrunge and epic angst-fests sung with perversely no feeling.
Creed’s effects are felt to this very day, with many popular “Emo” bands even getting this pseudo-angsty feelingless singing and soulless thirdwave grunge production. How long until it even gets to, say, rap?
*when someone else controls the dial or in the few seconds before I change the channel. Yes, for Creed I actually do this.
Ditto the Jesus thing, ditto the annoying vocals.
Well, yes, they suck. And Scott Stapp is a total moron who made a sex tape consisting of him and Kid Rock being blown by a bunch of underage groupies.
Good possibilities all, lets take them point by point
I don’t know what you mean by this, so I am automatically assuming it is incorrect. Anything I don’t understand must be wrong…and possibly evil. 
This might have been a viable reason 5 years ago, but at this point I don’t think they are even considered popular. They are WAY to easy of a target for elitist backlash at this point. It would be like picking on the kid in the wheelchair. (If they are still considered a popular band, I don’t understand this, see point one)
Yup that’s the one.
It’s not so much the sucking–though they do suck–it’s more the popularity. Why is Creed selling records when so many better bands aren’t? Add Stapp’s pretensions to depth and spirituality and Creed isn’t just a bad band, they’re a bad band you want to disembowel.
Fortunately they seem to have faded.
Forgot about the sex tape. Has Stapp ever commented on this, seeing as it probably is not the Christian thing to do and all? Or was this before he entered into “The Light”? Or did the devil led him astray that day?
They helped make Nickelback’s success possible. That may not have been intentional, but it’s the musical equivalent of, like, manslaughter.
Don’t forget that Creed was sued by fans after a failed show in Chicago. Just my opinion, but if your fans sue you for breech of contract because you were acting like a rock star, you don’t have “fans”, you have “consumers”, and that’s just it. Creed was pre-packaged corporate rock that didn’t inspire any loyalty or particular reverance by their listeners. It was a product that you bought and had sold to you, and rightly dismissed as shite by music illiterati.
A couple other reasons:
They copy Pearl Jam to the nth degree;
As mentioned previously, their ex-lead singer, Scott Stapp, is a hypocrite and a phony–the Jimmy Swaggart of corporate “alternative” rock.
I remember the Daily Show report about that.
-So you went to a Creed show and it sucked.
-Yeah.
-So now you’re sueing.
-Yeah.
-Didn’t you know what you were getting into? I mean, its’ Creed.
Very loosely paraphased.
I’ll give Creed credit for one thing - their Behind the Music was the funniest, most overwrought piece of crap I’ve ever seen. Apparently, being a college dropout makes you the new Jimi Hendrix.
Other than that, their music sucks.
E.
Stapp’s a tool. How much of a tool, you ask?
I’ve heard (sorry, no cites - got it from the radio) that he’s attempting to sue his ex-band members (yes, Creed’s broken up. Hallelujah!) for copying his “sound.” See, after Stapp left for solo efforts (ha!) his ex-band members (a drummer and guitarist) went gone on to form the band Altarbridge. They’ve been moderately successful with this effort, selling a respectable number of albums (I forget how many; I think it’s in the low hundreds of thousands). Stapp, being resentful and decidedly not as successful (his first solo album has only sold in the low tens of thousands of records), thought that they stole “his” sound and that he deserves some of their money, since he’s responsible for their success. :rolleyes:
He’s an ass that deserves to be made fun of. And yeah, making Nickelback possible is a crime that deserves death.
The very first time I heard them, I laughed out loud because it was such an over-the-top near parody of Eddie Vedder’s voice. It sounded to me like it was an unnatural way for him to sing, but he thought it sounded good on someone else and they were successful, so why not? That was the main thing that bothered me - it felt really calculated to me and not natural at all. It felt engineered to capture the attention of a certain crowd and I was greatly annoyed by that. I was also very surprised that so many people took to it.