Why the republicans are destined to fail

We’ve been on an express train to hell ever since the Know Nothings swept Massachusetts in 1854. :triumph:

Nah, people didn’t really say that in 2016. We didn’t expect Trump to win at all, in fact.

We thought that if Trump did win, then America would end up looking really stupid, losing respect with the rest of the world, the racists would come out of the woodwork, that Trump would use his position for personal enrichment, and most did predict that the economy would take a hit. On that last, surprisingly, Trump didn’t mess up all that much the robust and growing economy that was handed to him, up until when he bungled the pandemic.

2018, Republicans didn’t win, 2020, Republicans didn’t win. This was because people understood the stakes and did their best to preserve our country.

We will probably keep saying that if the Republicans win, the American experiment in Democracy is doomed until they do, and it is, or the Republican party stops trying to do an authoritarian takeover of our country.

Sometimes warnings are headed, and those warnings are what prevent catastrophe from coming to pass.

It’s like the boy who cried wolf, except that everytime he cried wolf, there were in fact wolves that the townspeople were able to drive off thanks to the warning, but now some people are tired of driving off the wolves, and blame the boy for warning about their approach.

Which is exactly why they don’t want to leave the fate of the country up to the voters, and would rather substitute their own authoritarian rule.

What if they don’t want to? Edging closer to the middle is how one gets called a RINO and is shunned by the party.

Much easier to just ignore the will of the voters and impose upon them your own rule.

Most if not all of which seems to have been caused by right-wing agitators and infiltrators, e.g. “Umbrella Man.”

And if you cannot see the difference between the protesting of systemic murder of innocent African-Americans by law-enforcement officers, and the attempt at overturning a free and fair democratic election by a bunch of subliterate yahoos following their fascist leader, it’s a waste of time to argue with you.

So the Republican National Committee has now officially labeled Jan. 6 as “legitimate political discourse” and censured Kinzinger and Cheney.

Prediction: Whomever the Republicans nominate for VEEP in 2024 will be required to swear that he will not accept disputed votes in 2032.

The Russians went through a lot of effort to get Trump elected and they will do the same in 2024.

It’s like getting tired of pulling a fire alarm every time you see a known arsonist with a lighted match.

Trump increased his percentage of Hispanic voters by eight percent between 2016 and 2020. And this wasn’t just Florida Cubans spoked by “socialism” rhetoric, the trend was nationwide. Biden still took 61 percent of Latinos, which you can look at one of two ways: Hispanics are still clearly in the Democratic camp, or Republicans have a tremendous amount of room for growth with that demographic.

Trump has no problem getting people on his side. Being a pathological liar, he will say whatever you want to hear making you feel as if he is your friend who understands.
Which makes Trump the #1 con artist.

Just read a book by Stephanie Grisham about working with Trump. :pleading_face:

It is almost as if sharing a Caribbean, Central, or South American background is not enough to define a monolithic voting demographic.
Gee, maybe people are individuals despite where they or their grandparents emigrated from.

She literally told people “to get the children connected to their parents”.

It’s vile, but excused, because reasons.

Are you sure she wasn’t referring to children separated from their parents at the border? Because that is literally what everyone else in the country heard.

Suppose that Pennsylvania is the margin of a legitimate Trump 2024 victory. In that event, I won’t be surprised if the Target near me is again looted. While I despise looting, this is not a threat to democracy. It is rather a threat to Target’s insurance company (and to the people who work and shop at the Target).

But suppose that Pennsylvania is the margin of a legitimate Biden 2024 victory. In that case, I won’t be surprised to see our GOP state legislature passing a bill to send a Trump elector slate list to D.C. That could succeed.

Playing off the thread title, I would say that anti-democracy Democrats are bound to fail because they don’t know how to destroy democracy, and, at least around here, don’t even try.

Republicans, or some of them, have a much more intelligent approach to destroying democracy.

If a good electoral count act reform passes, even the smartest Donald-for-Life Trumper will probably fail. However, they aren’t destined to fail. Just as they aren’t destined to lose fair elections.

Indeed; here is the full context, from that CNN article:

I’m not a fan of harassing anyone, and I disagree with Waters’ exhortation to do so. But, that said, it’s pretty clear from context that “get the children connected to their parents” was in reference to reuniting immigrant children with their parents, after they had been separated at the border, and not “find and harass the children of Trump administration officials.”

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/maxine-waters-trump-officials/index.html

That’s one way to spin it.

Speaker Pelosi wasn’t a fan of her statement at the time.

Nancy Pelosi rebukes Maxine Waters for comments on Trump administration (cnbc.com)

Your facts are getting in the way of people’s political opinions, you cut that out right now. :shushing_face:

Most of that is coming from the right (if it’s at all political). A bit of it is from the left.

That requires a citation.

“Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths.”