I think it was more of a case, not so much that DITWD wasn’t liked, but that posters were complaining about him-in other words, he was offending too many people.
Hay, uh…
You mentioned red_dragon60 being banned. Uh…
Why? I don’t want to add to the morass of “Why was _____ banned?” threads, so i guess i will ask here.
Did he say something horrible in GD? 'Cause i never noticed him doing anything too bad…
First I’ll deal with this, because I realize that that’s what a lot of people are probably thinking.
Then I’ll go back and deal with the rest of Izzy’s cretinous post, which will have to wait a bit, because I’m going to have to give it the Bjorn treatment and Copy and Paste it into WordPad. But I doubt if I’ll have to get drunk and sacrifice any chickens to the spirit of Kate Turabian…
FTR: No, I didn’t bother e-mailing any mods or admins, because I’m not stupid, and I pay attention. I read Lynn’s warning to him two weeks ago, and I’ve been here long enough that I know how the system works, and criminy, there he was, stepping high, wide, and handsome all over GQ. It would have been an amazement to me if he hadn’t been banned.
Prescient? Is it “prescient” to look out the window, see storm clouds gathering, and say, “Hmm, I predict it’s going to rain”?
Also, I have never heard, or read, in the entire time I’ve been here at the SDMB, even a single instance of a poster being banned just because someone requested it. You must have a remarkably jaundiced and cynical view of the mods and admins, Izzy, if you think they’re such wusses that they would ban someone just because there was a request on the table.
Shall we test it? Shall I e-mail Tuba or Lynn and ask that you be banned? Shall I flex my seniority muscle and see just how much weight I can swing around?
You know what would happen? I do. Tuba would send me a polite little e-mail saying,
And that would be all that would happen. Lynn probably wouldn’t be as polite.
I’m with Fenris.
It was an act.
Jack Dean Tyler was, too. But a lot of you certainly bought that hook, line and sinker.
BTW, if WB does come back as a sock puppet, my guess is he will be as easily identifiable as a Serlin sock. The troll hunters with the pith helmets here will have him pegged inside of a day.
Today we have lost a great comedian.
Oh well.
Naah. Bob Hope is still hanging in there.
Well hell!!
The one time I remember e-mailing Tuba, she didn’t sign it Jenny, she signed it Tuba.
You really are in the club DDG.
How’s about you don’t try swinging that club around. No sense losing more posters I like.
Well, I for one, am a bit sorry to see which straw it was that broke the camel’s back. I apparently have the dubious honor of being the last non-moderator to respond to one of his posts. And all he was doing was trashing Clinton. Now I liked the Clinton Administration, but I certainly understand that some folks don’t, and I like to think that the Clinton administration was the last Administration that you could freely trash in this country.
I’m personally trying to get myself banned so that I can get my life back.
FWIW, I seem to remember that red_dragon’s banning slipped under the radar several weeks ago. I could be wrong, though…
CnoteChris said
The one time I remember e-mailing Tuba, she didn’t sign it Jenny, she signed it Tuba.
Anechdotal reply, but I would start looking over your shoulder.
Then,
How’s about you don’t try swinging that club around. No sense losing more posters I like.
See above.
Okay, let’s break this down.
Izzy says, “Being unpopular can get you banned.”
I ask him for a cite for that, some kind of proof.
Izzy does not provide a cite. Instead he says:
So apparently you are unable to distinguish between “fellow posters” and “mods and admins”.
Ah, now I see what he’s getting at. He’s determined to nitpick about semantics, always a good approach when you don’t really have anything to say. He seems to think that there have been instances in the past where the fact that a lot of Dopers didn’t like a poster was the reason that that poster got banned. He seems to think that Daniel~ was banned merely because a lot of Dopers didn’t like him.
Izzy, the reason that a lot of Dopers didn’t like Daniel~ was because–he was frequently a jerk. And the reason he was banned was because–he was frequently a jerk. A lot of posters didn’t like him, for months and months, before he really got around to being a jerk consistently. And during all those months and months, he wasn’t banned. People who didn’t like him just worked around him, or ignored him. They didn’t get together and inundate the admins with e-mails demanding that he be banned because “we don’t like him”.
Also between a “major factor” and and “merely because”.
Ah, good, more semantics.
Frankly I don’t think you are in a position to be criticizing Wildest Bill.
You’re absolutely right, Izzy, it’s a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black, and I am deeply ashamed of myself. Why, when I think of all the times I’ve started bigoted threads about Jews, and Ragheads, and Niggers, and using illegal steroids, and rap music causing teenage pregnancy, and here I’ve got the unmitigated gall to point my finger at WB for the same thing, I could just cry.
Also bizarre is your asking for a cite and providing one in the very same post.
You find it bizarre that I provided a cite? Gee, I’m sorry, that wasn’t my intention, I’ll try to do better next time at keeping you out of the loop.
The cite I provided proves my point, that WB was banned, in Lynn’s own words, for trolling. Not because she “didn’t like him”, but because he was trolling.
Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni
And when I have half a dozen posters (all of whom I respect) asking me to look hard at a particular person, I take that very seriously.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Well, you got us dead to rights, Izzy. It’s the Straight Dope Cabal at work. I lied in my post above–we all e-mailed Lynn this afternoon and ordered her to ban WB, and thus the fell deed was done.
Seriously, though, if you’re interested, which I doubt, this comment doesn’t mean “half a dozen posters asked me to ban WB”. What it means is, half a dozen posters, all of whom she respected, had been asking her to look hard at WB for, literally, months, ever since he registered–and no, FTR, I wasn’t one of them.
*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose * (Bold added)
Also, I have never heard, or read, in the entire time I’ve been here at the SDMB, even a single instance of a poster being banned just because someone requested it. You must have a remarkably jaundiced and cynical view of the mods and admins, Izzy, if you think they’re such wusses that they would ban someone just because there was a request on the table.
Can you get it through your head that you cannot deliberately make these addditions (just because, merely because etc.) to people’s positions as you restate them? Or are you being deliberately dishonest? In any event, you are requested to stop. If I mean to say “just because” or the like, I will say so myself.
*Originally posted by DPWhite *
…I like to think that the Clinton administration was the last Administration that you could freely trash in this country.
You can trash the Clinton administration all you want, DP–just not in General Questions.
*Originally posted by Smeghead *
**FWIW, I seem to remember that red_dragon’s banning slipped under the radar several weeks ago. I could be wrong, though… **
His last post was earlier today, actually. No clue what brought it on, that post wasn’t particularly inflammatory. shrug
Smeghead
Red_Dragon60 posted to this thread today. So I guess he was banned today for some reason. I did a quick search and did not find anything, and since he had been a member since 03-23-2000 and had over 1000 posts, I know he wasn’t a sock. Maybe the mods will illuminate us on that one.
DDG
I find your last post remarkably dense. I can’t decide if you are dishonest or simply not too bright. Either way, from my perspective, your post is so lacking in any merit that I am at a loss over how to make it any more obvious than it already is.
If there is anyone who thinks that DDG has made any legitimate response in her post, please help me see what it might be.
I argued with Bill a few times in the Pit, but overall I only encountered him in IMHO. He always made me laugh out loud in there. My favorite thread was along the lines of…“I was driving home, speeding excessively, squealed wheels around several corners at high speed, burned some rubber, and ran four red lights, AND five cops pulled me over and roughed me up! Can you believe that! Did those cops infringe on my rights?!” I think he failed to mention he was drunk and packing a semi-automatic as well.
Hilarity, I tell you. Hilarity.
During the 2000 election I was convinced he was actually Dubya, but now I know better. I’m pretty sure it was an act. I have an image in my mind of Will Ferrell sitting in front of his computer in a wife beater with a joint in one hand and a Bud in the other, laughing his ass off.
YMMV, of course, but he almost always made me smile.
Now Red_Dragon60, I’m not sure about. I couldn’t find any links when I searched, but I’m going to keep looking. AFAIK, he was a good kid, but we’ll see…I don’t spend a lot of time in every single forum, so I’m a little out of the loop.
Izzy says, “Being unpopular can get you banned.”
No, he didn’t.
Izzy said:
I would add to Anthracite’s post that IMHO becoming unpopular with your
fellow posters can also be a major factor in your becoming
banned.
My emphasis.
*Originally posted by IzzyR *
**…you cannot deliberately make these addditions (just because, merely because etc.) to people’s positions as you restate them? **
Part of “restating” someone else’s position, Izzy, frequently involves using different words from those in the original statement. Cannot you get that through your head?
This statement:
While on the subject, perhaps you would care to comment on whether you complained to the admins about WB and asked that he be banned? Your comments in the post that I linked to seemed remarkably prescient.
–clearly implies that you thought I had, singlehandedly, gotten WB banned.
I responded, “I’ve never seen a case where a single request was sufficient to get a poster banned. The mods and admins are tough cookies and don’t accede to requests like that.” If you find it offensive that I used different words to restate your post, then maybe you should find a message board that doesn’t use words, maybe one that uses pictograms.
Far be it for me to trash the zipper man, even if we are now in the pit.