Why we have Trump

Again, it’s complacency and tolerance of racists as he suggests in that post. We have Trump because older whites were either racists, hostile to inclusive democracy, or they didn’t stand up to the racists in their lives. I suspect that this is how fascism came to most nations, the bourgeoisie don’t want to make a scene at Christmas dinner.

This complacency is also why white boomers brought up Kent State anytime you pointed out that Trump is a fascist. To them four white middle class college kids is the worst thing imaginable.

Challenge: Follow the OP’s prompt

Difficulty: Impossible

It has been 1 0 posts since someone pontificated about why we have Trump in earnest.

I find the OT responses much more interesting than the criticisms they engender.

YMMV, of course.

Hey, some of us tried.

Also, because according to the comments section the MCU, DCU, Star Trek and Wars franchises were “going woke” so people said “oh yeah you want RW technocorporate supervillains? We’ll GIVE you RW technocorporate supervillains”.

What I wouldn’t do for a villain with the competency of Lex Luthor.

People’s inability to understand the difference between situations that call for earnestness vs. snark is why we have Trump.

(only about half joking)

I might also if they didn’t also exist in eleventy bajillion other threads.

Which is the point of the thread

And quite probably why we have Trump

And wouldn’t that be a great idea for a different thread?!

Does “OT” mean “on-topic” or “off-topic”?

I’m not sure if this was intended to be posted in earnest or if it was intended to be snarky.

I think it means “overtime”.

Or “offroad tricycle”.

I think “ominous tarantula” is out of context for this conversation.

It’s a quantum superposition of multiple snark states.

Maybe a different forum that offers a tighter leash …

Can’t help think Lexcorp would at least be selling proper self-driving cars by now.

Naomi Shulman:

“Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than ‘politics’. They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Resisters.”

We’ve spent generations teaching people that resistance to fascism is impolite. That virtuous people turn their heads and ignore the persecution, and that only bad people point out what’s happening, complain about it, or worst of all raise a hand in defense.

Exactly, almost all the reasons put forward here are some version of that.

Half of Americans are fascists, of the remainder half of them “don’t follow politics.”

Surely you realize the fewer the relevant responses in the ‘fuck homeopaths’ thread the more effective the discussion will be?

Since you saw fit to quote me in your OP I feel that I have read it completely. It was a shitty, nasty little post that intentional misrepresented my point. Many of the other posters have made: that Americans were largely complacent and slow to stop America’s descent into fascism.

You said in the OP:

It was a stupid OP and our responses were better than your initial post.

Trump is like if Solomon Grundy took brain damage in a fall and woke up thinking he was Lex Luthor.

I think you incorrect re the effect of domestic stay at home orders (we never had actual “lockdowns” and using that terminology only serves to further that narrative) on inflation was minimal. Inflation was a world-wide event principally caused by supply-chain disruptions. Sure, pent-up demand was a factor, but not the determining one.

That’s why I mentioned earlier in my post the argument was a specious argument, which is what the OP was looking for. I had made the same mistake earlier in the thread. To clarify, I don’t seriously believe that the argument you quoted actually contributed to Trump’s victory.