Uh, this “right” is about the government not being able to ban you from having guns. A private entity can do that, and they’re not taking away any kind of “right” you may have.
Did you go to college and live in a dorm on campus? I can’t hardly imagine that if you had, that you’d think it was a good idea to allow guns there, for dozens of reasons. Stupidity, drunkenness, emotionality, lack of security, etc… I mean, we pretty much didn’t lock our doors in my dorm; unless someone had a gun safe of some kind, it would be a huge gap in the physical security of the weapons.
And I’m not saying that they can’t own guns, just that they can’t keep them on campus in dorms. I don’t particularly care if people carry on campus, so long as they aren’t keeping them in the dorms. Just too much that could potentially go wrong.
Part of it is that I was a RA; that means that in case of some kind of disturbance, I was probably the first person of authority on the scene, even if I was only trained in stuff like peer counseling and dispute resolution, not in how to deal with violent drunks or people armed with lethal weapons. I mean, if someone’s drunk and violent, but unarmed, I wouldn’t be so worried; I’m a big guy, I’d been in a few fights, and have some basic martial arts training. But a gun makes it a totally different situation.
And seriously… a guy with 3 shotguns, 5 pistols and 4 rifles is getting his pro-gun credentials questioned? There’s a difference between being pro-gun and being irrationally so; gun ownership is not an absolute right- there are times, places and people where it should absolutely be restricted. For example, the mentally ill/unstable, college dorms, bars, and at events like sporting events or inaugurations.
Aren’t most people only in the dorm during their freshman year? Handguns are restricted to over 21s so most would be out of the dorm by then. Also you can certainly require the gun be secured when not carried.
Absolutely. I know several gun grabber liberals who own all sorts of guns including “assault weap:rolleyes:ns”. While on the opposite end of the spectrum their hypocrisy is no worse than yours.
This isn’t exactly true. In most states an 18 year old can possess a pistol but cannot get a CCW permit until 21. Federal law prohibits under 21 from buying a hand gun from an FFL but doesn’t prevent a parent from giving an 18 year old a handgun to keep in their home or to open carry.
You still have not given us a cite that guns on campus would actually be a problem. I’ve done part of the work for you by pointing out a jurisdiction that allows guns where alcohol is both sold and consumed.
You CLAIM to be pro-gun, but your hysterical hypotheticals – totally ignoring reality – scream anti-gun. You’re like the liberals who screamed, and cried, and wept to high heaven that the 12th state to liberalize concealed carry laws would result in rivers of blood in the streets, totally ignoring that that hadn’t happened in the other 11 states.
He’s also insulting the adults that college students are. Instead of going to college they could have gotten a job and lived in an apartment (with a gun for protection) and be productive responsible adults, but put them in a college setting instead and they become untrustworthy drunken nut cases.
Actually, I simply keep my hand inside my purse in a position where I can easily access the gun if need be when it’s necessary to be alone with a male cab driver. If the driver has a problem with that I will gladly choose another cab though this has honestly never been an issue.
The fact that firearms aren’t legal on certain campuses gave the police one more weapon in preventing stupid acts of violence. They did not have to wait someone’s ex-lover with an attitude problem had the weapon armed and cock.
This is the same kind of horseshit babbling those opposed to concealed carry laws spewed. Yet they never had the honor to admit they were wrong after history proved they were.
All the problems you envision with this topic are in you’re head. You’ve presented no data showing significant problems with campus carry. [This is the part where you or someone else posts 1 or 2 negative stories on it and base your entire argument on those 1 or 2 stories]
It took 3 tries to get concealed carry in Wisconsin. The first 2 tries resulted in a veto that was not overridden. Shockingly, one of the state legislature members that voted to uphold the veto was the Democrat that introduced the bill in the first place.
Every time the issue came up the antis would spew their propaganda how it would make it more dangerous for law enforcement officers and make their jobs harder.
Yet, every time, all the major police officer associations, deputy sheriff unions, and the troopers association came out in favor of the law. One representative of an anti group went so far as to suggest cops were too stupid to know any better and she had to oppose the law for our own good. Yeah, don’t do me any favors lady! :mad:
I was considering putting my NRA sticker in my car window, as a “profiling aid” to any cop that might be sniffing around. I was told not to, as there is not much love in police circles for the NRA.
As for your legislative bill sponsor, it is not unusual when the introducer of a bill doesn’t even recognize it any more after it goes through committee.
To be clear, I’m not against the idea of college students owning guns. I’m not against the idea of carrying guns on campus either.
What I am not wild about is the idea of people having and storing guns in dorms on college campuses. I mean, we (meaning somewhere in the nation) already prohibit them in post offices, courthouses/government buildings, churches, bars, airports, and in most states, in educational institutions. Prohibiting them in dorms seems more obvious to me than banning them in post offices, for example.
If you want to go that route, every police officer I have ever known hates concealed carry because it only adds multiple layers of difficulty to their jobs. The last thing they want in armed confrontation is untrained would-be Rambos.