The way I’ve always heard, the Devil enjoys collecting souls to add to his collection. Misery loves company, I guess.
So, if this is the case, then why can I not successfully sell my soul to the Devil in return for really cool stuff now?
Seems to me that this indicates there there is no Heaven nor Hell, God nor Devil, and that religion is basically the world’s biggest farce.
Convince me otherwise.
Maybe he already got it for free.
Smart shopper, that guy is. Why should he give you Free Stuff[sup]TM[/sup] to get something he’s already got?
Well, if you’re going to sell your soul, you probably aren’t the heaven-bound type anyhow. So he gets your soul, and you get nothing. A much better deal for the devil.
–John
Because the Devil only wants uncorrupted, untainted, pure souls. And yours… Well! As worldly and exciting a life as you’ve lead…let’s just say you don’t meet Satan’s high standards.
Mine, on the other hand, my sheltered life has left my soul as clean and pure as the wind-driven snow (and my strenght is that of ten men because my heart is pure) would fetch primo wishes.
Fenris
Well, according to what I’ve read in The Holly Bibble, it says that all I had to do in order to be saved was to accept Mr. Christ as my personal ticket to heaven. So, I did that when I was a kid. Now, I’d like to cut out on that, conditional upon my demands being met by Lucifer.
Is there a point of no return with Big Daddy, Junior and The Spook?
Doesn’t the very name Manservant Hecubus imply that Satan is already your master? (I could be incorrect here; my research source is a dim memory of Kids in the Hall.) If you are Manservant to another Master, you might want to check on whether he has already sold the lien rights to your soul for, say, a bag of Circus Peanuts. You do also need to account for wear and tear, which does indeed lower your soul’s appraised value.
My soul, for example, is valued at $1.59, after the manufacturer’s mail-in rebate. Fenris, as a result of lying, just became the Blue Light Special.
[sub]Brilliant and hilarious, yes. Pure as the driven snow? I think not.[/sub]
I dunno…high mileage? Low resale value?
“Lying”? “Blue Light Special”?That hurts, seawitch. My delicate, flower-like spirit has been crushed beneath the hobnailed boots of your horrible comment. My soul is so pure that I weep at the harshness of your comment. But also, my soul is so pure that I can forgive you your mean, terrible comment.
I put forth in all humility to you that my soul is the purest on the boards (excluding Cecil’s of course)
Fenris ;)
Well, I’ll let someone who is actually a Christian address the theological question of whether redemption by Christ is eternal.
But the Bible says lots of things, including that Satan is a wily cat, etc. As an atheist, what I’m saying is that “The Devil hasn’t offered me a specific deal that I have in mind, therefore God does not exist” is not theologically supportable using the Bible or any other piece of Christian text, and it is completely lacking in logic or, dare I say, thought. It is not a good argument, and you should drop it.
Your scenario and the conclusion you draw from it are a bigger farce than any religion. Well, OK, most religions.
manhattan, GD is not the place for personal insults. You should know that. For shame.
What does the devil have to do with christanity? He is really an unimportant figure.
Manservent, I’ve read manhattan’s last message thrice, and don’t see any place wherein he’s insulting anyone.
Asmodean, the devil’s lack of importance to Christianity would explain why he is so rarely referred to in Christian literature, prayers, revivals, etc.
How bout the fact that he is almost never referred to in the bible? Christans who focus more on the devil aren’t being very good christans are they?
Look, the salvation prayer is not a password or magic ritual. If you really believed the conditions of it, you wouldn’t want to sell your soul to Satan for wishes. They’re mutually exclusive. You could pretend to believe what you prayed, but then you’re a hypocrite, and, again, aren’t on the Heaven train.
–John
Manservant, no personal insult was intended, nor do I think one was there. But if you saw one, I apologize for it.
I’ve read your posts on the board. You’re a smart guy who, in this case, had a manifestly stupid idea. It happens to the best of us.
Kind of a pity, too. Because if I’m going to hell, I agree with you that I sure would like at least a decent rent-controlled apartment or a date with Sela Ward or something to ease the pain of losing my soul. But Christianity just doesn’t teach that it happens that way.
I’d also like to take this opportunity to make a correction to my prior post. I meant that a Christian might be along to explain the permanancy of redemption through Christ, of course.
Redemption by Christ is .05 (.10 in Michigan), same as everyone else.
So what do you have to do to sell your soul to the Devil?
Get a law degree?
Manservant, this is a GREAT thread. I had tried, many times abeit, to ‘sell’ my soul to the ‘Devil’ as a kid. What a fucking scam!!! Not one time did he show up, like in the movies! This Jesus, Bible thing is crap. To hell with you believers!
Sorry, ‘albeit’ (and I am not being sarcastic to you, Manservant, just being one who agrees with your point)
Could I find redemption through John Christ, former guitarist for the band Danzig? He seems pretty cool.