Remember when Republicans use to know this? Papa Bush did and even the John McCain of 8 years ago knew it very well.
Palin said “I know at the end of the day putting this in God’s hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4.” I don’t think any inferrence is needed. She clearly said that God will decide who gets elected and that result will be the right thing for America. The only question is whether she will still hold this belief if the election produces a result she isn’t expecting.
Well, I accidentally bumped into a glurgy religious homeschooling blog the other day with a big pic of McCain/Palin on it and the caption ‘What A Godsend’!
“They” must know something “we” don’t.
Right?
She most certainly did imply that conclusion. If she’s saying that the results will be God’s will, then then it’s a necessary implication that an Obama win would be God’s will.
Dio, most Christians I know would say that God’s will can be frustrated in the short term. That possibility is a necessary consequence of believing in sin.
That’s complete logical gibberish, of course, but also inconsequential in this case, because Palin assured us that God will definitely decide the outcome of this election.
Governor Palin is an idiot, so I won’t use her as an example, but I don’t think a Christian believing God’s will can be frustrated in the short term is logical gibberish. God can retain omnipotence while nevertheless allowing free will; it is a self-limitation. By the act of creating beings with free will, God is, by definition, deciding to permit their choices to be outside the control exercised over, say, gravitation.
Why I’m arguing the Christian case I don’t know, as I’m at best an agnostic and practically speaking don’t believe in Jehovah’s existence at all.
This is a much longer argument which has ben rehashed here before. Suffice it to say that human free will is logically incompatible an omnimax god. It’s a different thread, though.
Of course, free will, in itself, is a logically impossible and incoherent concept, regardless.
But we can agree that Governor Palin’s a twit, at least, no?
Well, yeah…
I see this thread has reached the “Kumbayah” stage.
Where’s a rotten tomato when you need to hurl one?
Excuse me for picking a bone for starters. The “America is being punished” notion carries the implicit idea that God is doing the punishing. That being the case, it would be consistant with the notion that Obama won because he was God’s preferred candidate (prefered for his punishment value).
Some folks will decide that, gosh, Obama’s election must have been God’s will after all, and move on.
Some folks will see it as yet another sign that Armageddon is right around the corner, then move on to looking for the next omen.
Many folks will do what most of us do when we’re wrong about something: quietly and conveniently forget we made the mistake, and move on.
Yes, I spelled “preferred” two different ways. You look it up; I’m tired.
Nitpick: T’was Colbert, not Stewart