Well MarkF, I was just offering it as evidence that its not only women who don’t like to admit they are wrong.
It’s not like I’m mad about the fact he’s hates saying sorry. I’ve accepted it as the way he is. Considering our fights all end with a cuddle and a cup of tea, I don’t think you can paint me as one of the those hold a grudge types.
I am, however, “blessed” with an excellent memory for conversations, even if I try to forget I can’t. They’re all there floating around in the deep recesses of my brain, and believe me if I held onto anger I’d go barmy. So, not I’m not counting, I just remember.
I think amarinth has hit the nail on the head here. MadSam, your experiences with other men may just be due to temperament. Are these men you work with? If they are, then perhaps your assertions that men are more logical boil down to that.
Ever heard of the Myers-Briggs personality test? It differentiates among people according to four criteria, one of them being predisposition towards logic or emotion. If you and your friends (or coworkers) are having a problem, and you find it easily resolved, it may be because you all have that inherently logical personality trait. “Like attracts like”… Your experiences with men are this way because YOU might be this way.
There are plenty of logical women out there. That said, I find this statement a bit harsh:
“Completely ride on the back of emotion”? Here, you seem to discount completely that emotion can be just as meaningful a source of information as logic can. Scientific data isn’t the only source of information.
Ultimately, I think your problem can be condensed into issues of personality - not gender. Look up some ways to better communicate with the women in your life. The “tackle and deal” method of handling your problems apparently is no longer working (at least in this arena). You’ve got to be a wee bit more patient.
Amarinth and SUPERKARLENE: I do believe that you both have given me some insight…It could very well be the friends that I choose that create this perception that I had.
What I find amusing is that as an ob/gyn and having heard so many patients tell me that they stay angrier/longer, I really did believe my OP…but then again perhaps I listened to but did not hear the side the majority of the above posts have presented.
As an obgyn, you have great experience with females and hormones, so you can correct me if I’m wrong: Don’t pregnant women tend to have incredible hormone surges, that can result in unintended emotional outbursts? Crying for no apparent reason, etc?
Doctor: And how are you feeling today, Mrs. Smith?
Patient: Great! Those prenatal vitamins do wonders!
D: How’s the blood pressure?
P: Good.
D: Morning sickness?
P: Gone.
D: Unexplainable bouts of anger?
P: I still think my husband is an evil farfenuggen.
SUPERKARLENE: Speaking of women, there is no question that women and their significant others often attribute the wide emotional swings that many women have to “hormonal changes”. But there are so many other factors involved as well.
Pregnant women go thru so many anatomical, hormonal, and physiological changes in pregancy, it would be more difficult to explain those who DON’T have emotional swings.
It depends entirely on the woman. I’m very leery of statements like “women in general” or “men in general.” Especially when followed by “bypass listening to reason.” I’ve known women who have very quick tempers, but don’t hold grudges, and men who do the “slow burn” thing.
SUPERKARLENE:
After making the sweeping generalization:
You proceed to say:
I would question the validity of this not-generalization; whats the evidence that sensitivity is related to sex? IMHO I think that men and women are the same and have the same instinctive emotional capacity, but stereotypical male development discourages the development of this faculty, while women have no barriers in its use.
