Actually, quite a few Christians sects do not celebrate or observe Christmas.
And, as it’s celebrated now is secular, as my cites have shown. Have you ever used a cite?
Too late.
DrDeth, would you please back away from the whole “Is Christmas secular or Christian?” debate and return to the workplace griping?
Yes, but you were arguing that Christmas trees don’t have anything to do with Christmas because they were adopted from pagan traditions. So, by that same reasoning, because Santa Claus was adopted from Christian traditions, he’s a religious symbol.
I’m not saying it’s a good argument. I’m just applying *your *shitty argument to other things to point out how shitty it is.
Ah, I see, you were just making your argument shittily.
I love it when people try to claim that they never said things that are immortalized on a website. On the previous page of a thread where they’re trying to backpeddle. Comedy gold. Here we go:
If it wasn’t to help prove that Christmas is a secular holiday, why else would you give this example in an post that is entirely about “proving” that Christmas is a secular holiday? Do you often post information that’s completely irrelevant to the point you’re trying to make? I really love this compilation album a friend put out that I finally got around to listening to this weekend.
No, your cites have shown that it’s *also *celebrated *by some people *secularly. That doesn’t mean that Christmas is an exclusively secular holiday or that it’s not offensive to non-Christians to be required to celebrate it.
… or that it’s annoying to non-Christians that it’s the only holiday being celebrated. Which I think was what I intended to gripe about in the first place.
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Too late!**
(no- just kidding, I’ll drop it. Ok, it’s a mild hijack, coming off from a legit on-topic post, I am sure this will come up again and again as the holiday season gets going)
Again, I never argued that. Your own boggled mind came up with that.
However, by the reasonable request of **Scuba_Ben ** I’ll drop this.
Sorry, I just realized that I got Scuba_Ben and Dr.Deth confused!
Uh, for what it’s worth. 
It is worth nothing! Nothing!!!** :dramatic violas:
When I win the lottery, I’m gonna hire myself a couple of viola-ists (that can’t possibly be the right word) to follow me around and punctuate my dramatic pronouncements…
ETA: And maybe a guy with a tin whistle to cue that I’ve made a funny. Life would be much more fun with a soundtrack.
Dear Boss: allowing co-workers to have veto power over each other’s time off requests is a bad, bad idea.
…the hell? Yeah, that sounds like a spectacularly bad idea.
Easy to do, with two such incredibly charming and intelligent gentlemen.
Oh shush. You’re making yourself blush.
Um… er… ah…
Oh right. Workplace rants.
My office’s HVAC is on a zone system. My floor has two zones. Each zone has one thermostat. So far, so good. My gripe, though, is that the thermostats are in the southeast-facing offices with full windows. Those offices get direct sunlight much of the day, meaning that the rest of the floor flip-flops between chilly and stale. In every season.
Christmas? Christmas? Oh yeah, that’s when we get two company holidays, except the CEO always forgets that the 24th is a company holiday and thinks we’re all going to be in the office. Asshole.
There are never any “happy holiday” emails, or bonuses, or treats in the break room, or anything. My fucking office sucks.
Our warehouse has some kind of air makeup system, I don’t know all the details involved except it keeps air moving into the warehouse. That’s what it’s supposed to do.
What it really does is go down. All the time. The wind picks up, the weather turns, whatever, something buggers it up and there is an imbalance in the pressure between outside and inside, and more importantly for me between the warehouse and the front office.
I can deal with the doors suctioning shut, that’s easy to deal with (at least the internal ones, the doors from the warehouse to outside are fun to try and open when this happens) but what I can’t deal with is the constant high pitch squeal/wail/banshee any time a door is closed completely. And since we are a secure facility (customs and head office requirement, I’m sure some would find it laughable but it is secure enough for a warehouse that ships PVC extrusions) the doors MUST be closed.
It’s right near the upper register of my hearing, which gives me a headache. Not just a headache, but tension right down my neck and shoulders like constant nails on a chalkboard (which I could deal with easier).
Prop open a door (which often promptly gets closed) put in ear plugs (which don’t help with the high pitch) by the time I’m going home I’m a mass of headache and tension. Which doesn’t help me since I need to study for my final next week. Grr.
Perhaps you might try noise reducing headphones?
I may have to try that, as long as I don’t get called on the carpet for listening to stuff when I should be working or taking phone calls. (I can’t quietly listen to music and keep it to myself while I can still do my job but mr two cubicles over can play music so we all can hear and has his WORK supplied phone ringtone set to Sexy Bitch).
Thankfully either the door has been allowed to be propped open or the intake is working today because all I bear is the usual hum of the office.
I had people submit applications in high school to be my drum-playing sherpa: cart my shit around and play a rimshot* every time I say something funny.
*Yes, yes, it’s technically a sting, not a rimshot. Nobody cares.
They’re playing Christmas music in the cafeteria. Make it stop.
Or just hold off on it for another 10 days. Srsly.