Shelbo,
It may not be airport security. WIth online reservations, a group could put 8-10 men in first class, then storm the cockpit when a stewardess gets the flight crew coffee or something. Unarmed force and maybe a nonmetallic knife or two would be enough to secure the cockpit.
Which is why I think we should arm the pilots, damn it, and make sure they know what they’re doing.
I’m sure it’s not a popular idea but it’s what I think right at this moment.
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I cannot believe that I am going to have to be the one to say this…believe me, it’s a little convuluted…but I think the last thing my country needs right now is a dead president (should any attacks continue).
Plus, amongst all the chaos, I don’t know that his presence–which will require a lot of security, etc.–will aid or be noticed right now in any of our major cities. Tomorrow or Thursday, certainly, but just not necessary now.
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I agree with moi… really even I know that the President is the head of America… no matter how some people despise him or if he makes wrong decisions or anything… he represents America. If he was there they would have to make sure he is safe because if he dies or something else happens… your going to have an even worse decimated populace. And I don’t think that’s going to help anyone, rather it would make the problem worse in the end. You may not like him much but he is an integral part of your country.
With all the warnings of possible terrorist attacks, never did I imagine something of this magnitude. I didn’t first hear about this until about 1PM; I signed on AOL to check my email, glanced at the AOL opening screen with the headline “America Under Attack” with the picture of the WTC–I honestly thought it was a promo for some TV Movie of the Week until I came here and saw some of the active threads.
Re Camp David, this is from a link on AOL’s opening screen, from the Kyodo News Service:
The time of this report is 12:14PM EDT, so it may be incorrect. The italics are mine–does anyone know if there were other attacks in DC, or is this simply incorrect?
from what I’ve gathered (in response to somebody’s questions):
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A plane crashed near Camp David.
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A half hour ago, there were two or zero unaccounted domestic flights (I think zero is correct) and twenty-two unaccounted international flights.
Cabbage, a CNN UPDATE at 2:12 PM CST
As mentioned a little above, 2 747s are on the ground in Whitehorse, Yukon. According to a recent report on CBC radio, 1 is allegedly hijacked and signaled the ground in Alaska so. It was escorted to Whitehorse Yukon by US fighters. Its on the ground and surrounded by the RCMP. US fighters are still there circling the city.
To clear up the Camp David thing, CNN has been saying for several hours now that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania MAY have been headed for Camp David. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There was no attack on Camp David. A car bomb was not detonated outside the capital building in DC. The damage seems to be confined to the WTC, the pentagon, and one plane crash in Pennsylvania. It is bad enough as it is. Rumor can only make it worse.
I live in Boston, and a girl at my school… Her whole family was on that flight. Her mother, father, and little sister. I can’t believe this…
This is truly a sad day. When news got out that a plane had hit one of the towers, I was immediately reminded of the bomber which had rammed the Empire State Building during WWII. I thought it might have been a mechanical error, commands not responding for some reason or another. When the second plane hit, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind. This single image will be forever etched in my mind, as will the implosion of both towers with all those people left inside.
My thoughts go to all the victims.
building 7 in the wtc complex is on fire and could collapse, says CNN. but i guess there’s no risk of losing further lives as i understand the area has been evacuated…
It was just reported on CBS, by Laura Ingraham, that Barbara Olson was among those killed at the WTC today.
I am in shock. I don’t know what to do or think or anything. Being in school, we were sort of isolated and had no internet or tv (new school - networks arn’t up). Somehow we found put through someone’s radio. Many people left, crying. My friend had to leav, was picked up by her Mom, they both looked distraught. I am praying for all the victims and familes and I just dont know what to do or think or feel. It all came apart at the seams…my life isn’t the same now, no one’s is.
The Jerusalem Post Reports:
May bin Laden’s last breath be the sharp inhalation of excruciating pain, and may it come soon. (without regard to the possibility of error in the above cite)
I have to get this out and this seems like the best of the current threads to do it.
I was in the World Financial Center when the planes struck. My manager was on the top floor and actually saw the attack. He called me, and of course we all ran to the windows. I have never seen such a sight. Three or four floors about 70 stories up were destroyed. On the ground there were people running around, debris had crushed some cars and caused some fires.
But then, I saw one, then another person fall out of the hole in the side of the building. I have never seen anything that has disturbed me more than that. I can still see him falling. [<- Nightmares for weeks.]
After the second plane hit there was chaos in the building, and we all evacuated. I just sat there dumbfounded; my mouth was just hanging open. Finally I just started to walk home, and felt like I was going to throw up the whole way. Thankfully I was able to get far enough away before they collapsed.
I can’t believe the WTC is gone. Walking over the bridge I kept trying to see the building and I couldn’t. But I just repeated to myself that there was just too much smoke to see them. And when I saw the news and saw the towers fall I couldn’t even think straight. Gone. All of those people. The observation deck, Windows on the World, and the lobby with all of the world flags that I walked through everyday on my way to work. Gone.
I live next to La Guardia Airport and the air is eerily quiet except for the occasional fighter plane.
This isn’t supposed to happen here.
Just posting to express my condoleances to all the victims and their families. I woke up this morning, turned on the TV and saw the reports. I feel numb. It feels like the world became a little more scarier. This should never have happened.
I am not a religious person, but my thoughts remain with the survivors of this tragedy.
Humorous signature not included in this post for obvious reason.
Here in the Bay Area, there were 4 international flights that landed about an hour ago. All were “escorted” in by F-16s.
The CEO of the company my husband works for (~80,000 ppl) closed offices nationwide. Coincidentally, the only large building they DON’T have offices in is the WTC.
My friend’s husband flew into NY from Boston today. His flight landed 5 minutes before the first crash. He’s walking out of the city to try and catch a train back to Boston.
My husband spends a lot of time in NYC. He stayed home this week to celebrate my birthday (tomorrow). I’m happy we didn’t move there.
My heart goes out to all of you…and Servo, you deserve a special hug.
{{{{Servo}}}}
Clarification:CBS reports Barbara Olson was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. Dan Rather says she called her husband to tell him the plane was being hijacked before her phone went dead.
God in Heaven.
I heard one other building is likely to collapse and another possible. I would wonder if this would endanger rescue workers in the area. (Apparently a large number of police and fire personnel were iin the buildings at the time of the collapse.)
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I was just flipping through the channels to change news channels and found that QVC has suspended it’s broadcast and are instructing people to change to their news channel and call the Red Cross to find out how to help.
How cool is that? Who says Americans are a bunch of unsympathetic money-grubbers?
I have also heard news coverage that says New Yorkers have been kind and compassionate to each other and to the victims.
Some days I’m just damn proud to be an American.