Then we’re on equal ground. You’ve made the distinction in the past of being one of the very few people on this board that I do not like, and that is saying something.
You’re the person who won’t live in a black neighborhood because you’re a white girl, aren’t you? :dubious:
This thread is bullshit. I came in here hoping for some good “customers suck” stories and instead the OP shit all over his own thread and now it’s just another “I’m not a racist just because I say racist things” thread. :mad:
I demand a do-over, this time with less racism.
And more cowbell.
Chimera, I’m on your side. Observing that a certain set of behaviors frequently occurs with a noticeably large number of an easily identifiable group of people does not mean that you automatically assume an individual in that group will behave that way in the future.
Is this true?
True, but it does empower one to say “ah-HA! Typical behavior from you people” when it does happen. Which is nice.
I just want to know how to tell people’s race, religion and age over the telephone. In my job it can make a difference in treatment and even in person I sometimes have to ask.
I believe in “Affirmative Action” racism. I hate the people who (unrealistically) feel especially “victimized” more than I hate the rest of you. But I still hate the rest of you, too.

Is this true?
Yep. From this thread:
Yeah the cost of living is high here. I can’t find anything cheaper than this without venturing into the south side of Chicago, which I’m too white and chickenshit to handle.
Now, I escaped the south side myself, and I have no problem with not wanting to live there because of the crime, but I don’t think black crime victims think, “At least I’m not WHITE and being shot/mugged/house broken into, thank God for small miracles!”

Racial Stereotyping is assigning specific behaviors to specific racial groups, not racism.
Like fuck it’s not.

Like fuck it’s not.
While the OP’s experience is his own, it is not beyond the pale to say that people from different cultures behave differently than others. There have been countless books on the subject that aren’t deemed racist. eg. looking at a couple of books on my desk right now “When Cultures Collide: Leading across cultures” by Richard D. Lewis, “Cultures and Organizations: Software of the mind” by Geert Hofstede.
People think and act differently based upon their culture. It is obvious to anyone who has worked in different cultures which is why there have been many books written on the subject on how to recognize the differences and adapt yourself to work around and with them.
That being said, culture is not the same as skin color or race. But sometimes people in a specific area can be grouped into a similar culture based upon their skin colour or race. The OP may be pointing out this cultural difference in an inelegant fashion that leads others to think it is racism rather than just observations on culture as he’s experienced them.
Or, it could be a bunch of PC pansies getting their knickers in a knot. Dunno.

That being said, culture is not the same as skin color or race. But sometimes people in a specific area can be grouped into a similar culture based upon their skin colour or race. The OP may be pointing out this cultural difference in an inelegant fashion that leads others to think it is racism rather than just observations on culture as he’s experienced them.
Or, it could be a bunch of PC pansies getting their knickers in a knot. Dunno.
See post #84.
As I said, I freely admit to being a Culturalist.

Or, it could be a bunch of PC pansies getting their knickers in a knot. Dunno.
This one. Any mention of race bunches panties in here.
Ah yes, dismiss everyone’s arguments as being “PC”. :rolleyes:
yeah, i really can’t get on board with labeling the OP a racist. people belonging to different cultures behave differently, and depending upon one’s line of work, certain groups may not come across well. in my own job at a call center, if i had to pick a group that tends to be the most annoying, i’d say “middle aged white females”. i’m a white female, does that make me prejudiced against my own race? i’m also not asserting that all middle aged white females are annoying as a rule, just that the ones i run into in my particular line of work tend to be moreso than the others. and the guy across from me might have a whole different answer, it’s all perspective.

Ah yes, dismiss everyone’s arguments as being “PC”. :rolleyes:
dude. seriously. at least he is making an argument and not doing what you do, which is drop in with the one liners that sync with the opinions of the majority, with a roll eyes smilie thrown in for good measure. do you ever actually contribute anything? for the love of god.
Okay, the worst customers. I worked behind a counter with, depending on my shift, a real microcosm of American, Chinese-American, African-American, Persian (not American) and Hispanic. Heavy on the retired schoolteachers. We all agreed that Asians, the Oriental kind, were the worst–and by worst I mean the ones who would have you drag out everything, and then would look at the stuff for 45 minutes, and then, if they bought it, they had about a 40% chance of returning it within a week. The Chinese-American thought it wasn’t all Asians but mostly the Japanese who did this. I probably couldn’t have told the difference. Obviously she could.
Rich entitled white women. Most likely to buy something, wear it/carry it, and then bring it back and pretend they hadn’t, and make you call your supervisor if you wouldn’t take it. How to spot them: Their hair is expertly bleached, they all have the same nose. They aren’t so much dressed, as costumed. Maybe wearing a polo outfit. Or a tennis skirt. Or their yoga pants, for god’s sake. Just dropped in on the way to the court/field/studio to, you know, look. This time of year they’ll be decked out for on their way to a Halloween party.
Russian women. I don’t know, I kind of liked them myself, but–most likely to come in at a busy time, have you get everything out to show them (see Oriental above) and then, after you’ve spent 30 minutes trying to figure out what to show them that they’ll buy, they say quite proudly that they got this thing (that you got out for them), this identical thing, at TJ Maxx and it cost HALF of what you are charging, and they got this other thing (that you got out for them) at Walmart and it was a THIRD what you are charging, and some other place had a real similar thing to this other thing (that you got out to show them) but it was cheaper, and can they get a discount? Because there’s a little smudge. (That was not there before you got it out to let them look at it.)
The all-time worst customer though was the guy who staggered in, asked if we could call Security (you bet!), then threw up and passed out. You would think he’d never come back after that, but he did, and all the smart people disappeared or got busy. He could never live that down.
Aside from him, though, our favorite customers tended to be MEN. They came in, found what they wanted, and bought it. A guy with an unsure expression, we were all over him.
I don’t think it’s necessarily racist when you start seeing patterns in the way certain customers do business. It’s really hard not to. We worked on commission, which pretty much guarantees that anyone who looks like they’re a serious shopper will be treated well, but some groups had a tendency to be so much trouble. But mostly it was individuals who were either known as a good customer who would buy something or as a prima donna who was going to want to see all the diamonds–again–for whatever reason and not buy.
What sort of call center are Indians calling in to?

This one, although not work related, really rang a bell. My nephew, although in his early twenties, rather than a teen, always billed himself as “The World’s Greatest Hacker”. Oh, yeah? Then why did you come to me to fix your problem. Your problem WAS malware related, and I told you where you got it. You know, the damn torrents…! I fixed it in a couple of hours. You know, the problem you couldn’t fix, despite being “The World’s Greatest Hacker”? And even though I fixed it, it only took you another 2 hours to wind up with the same problem, AGAIN??? And I liked your machine, so I bought one just like it, used, for 200 bucks, and have never had the same problem, even though I’ve had the same model machine for a year and a half? And am posting it RIGHT NOW on the same model machine? Who’s the fucking hacker, here, dude?
As the owner of a computer shop, I have met more “uberhackers” than I can shake a stick at, I had a lovely chat a few weeks ago with someone who claimed they were some kindo of ex-millitary internet warfare expert that helped trash early warning systems and could destroy any security and could be in and out of most systems without even being noticed from his iphone.
He just knew his computer was virused (no lights no fans, nothing) and was amazed when replacing a power supply solved his problem.

Then we’re on equal ground. You’ve made the distinction in the past of being one of the very few people on this board that I do not like, and that is saying something.
Yeah, it is clear by your OP that you are not of the judgemental kind.