Yeah, I took it as rhetorical. But people are answering it like a straight question.
This. And **kunilou **is right: it isn’t pleasant. Glad I divorced the lean, wiry SOB.
That thought came to mind for me too. But the key point is that thread was about sex and this one is about dating. For sex the key points are if the other person turns you on and if the sex is good. You can ignore things like judgmental piece of crap (in one ear and out the other…). For dating “judgmental piece of crap” would be a very strong factor.
Like it or not, most of us have ingrained notions about what is sexually desirable, and while not all of us are Brangelina-or-nothing, not many of us find extreme weight attractive or appealing.
I am relatively heavy (although still fairly proportional); I would not say a relationship with a very heavy woman was off the list, but I would be unlikely to be attracted to such a woman in the first place. It would have to be a relationship that started on other terms and evolved into a romantic/sexual one.
If that makes me judgmental, hand me over those robes.
You might have missed my point. The title of this thread seems to be a thinly veiled insult of the OP of the original thread. And I’d kind of like to see it go there.
Anyhow, I voted ‘‘no.’’ One of the least attractive things in a prospective partner is being judgmental of others, particularly for superficial reasons. I’d rather bang a fat person.
I’m just curious if all the people with Valtrex ad lifestyles in that other thread came out of the womb with hiking boots and a canteen or if at some point in their life, someone way into these activities slowed their own lifestyle down enough to give a new person a chance.
I think the OP assumes that “judgmental” and “piece of crap” are redundant descriptors, but I disagree. In my opinion, if a person is judgmental it doesn’t necessarily also make them a piece of crap because I understand that there are many layers and traits that go into making a person who they are. So I would date a judgmental person (even a slim one) if I didn’t otherwise think they were a piece of crap.
Um, you don’t need to know anyone into a hobby to get into a hobby? A person can start anything without hanging off someone else for support. And of course there are people in almost every hobby who make a living helping out novices.
I get what you’re really saying but at the same time, sheesh. :rolleyes: And in the judgmental thread, too ![]()
Date? No. Personality is essential and someone who is a “judgmental piece of crap” does not sound like my type.
One night stand? Maybe if he was super hot and managed not to say anything too awful during that time
But a few terrible comments and I’d not find him hot anymore, so no.
But the definition of judgmental piece of crap differs between people. Someone who isn’t sexually attracted to fat people but who doesn’t care about weight in any other context, and is nice to everyone is not a problem. Someone who fat shames or is a jerk about it? Then no.
I wouldn’t disagree. It’s a snarky inversion of the question by someone for whom that first question and its discussion flicked a raw spot. What’s interesting is that the mods sometime step on such snark-backs, and sometimes don’t.
Since they didn’t, I threw out a viewpoint. Yes, most of us find extreme obesity to be a turn-off, even when it’s wrapped around the most lovely person on earth. Cultural? Societal? Advertising-al? Genetic? Doesn’t really matter. Most of us find a more slender build more appealing. Snarky pushback doesn’t change that.
We aren’t talking about someone you might talk with on a bus, or at work, or even in a social setting. We’re talking about someone who appeals to you so deeply and fundamentally you want to do the procreation paso with them. If someone carrying a double body weight can’t accept me being socially polite to them, even friends, and still find them a sexual turnoff… well, sorry. (I speak from the viewpoint of someone who realizes he is no longer the devastating chick-magnet of 30 - I’m not being oblivious to the issues.)
If I was forced to date a judgmental, crappy person, I’d prefer to go with a slim one rather than a grotesque, elephantine one.
I don’t find anything inherently wrong with answering ‘‘no’’ to that question… but some had made a good point, that grown-ups generally understand that individuals have sexual preferences, and there’s no reason to single out fatness per se (as opposed to shortness, baldness, facial hair, or some other superficial characteristic) as a topic of conversation unless you have a special kind of hate-on for fat people. And I’d say the types of comments in that thread are indicative of said hate-on. For example, facial hair is pretty close to a deal-breaker for me, but that doesn’t mean I would level that level of hatred or express such disgust with men who have facial hair. I’m quite capable, in fact, of objectively finding a man with facial hair attractive, or seeing how others could find him attractive, without actually wanting to do him myself.
I voted “no” for both threads.
I don’t think it’s hiking that makes you need Valtrex…
If this has to do with another thread, the whole thing gets pretty complicated. The hottest woman I ever dated got up to 200 lbs at her peak. But she was tall and in the Army, more muscle than average, so I thought she was never more than a little overweight, if at all. She didn’t stick with any weight, up or down.
The drummer in my band at that time hated all my gfs. I don’t know if it was an attention/drama issue or maybe he was bi for me or what, but anyway, he said she was ‘fat’. FWIW, nobody else ever agreed with me that she was the hottest girl in town, but she was. She was also fairly crazy, in a not-fully-controllable personal dynamo kind of way. From a profile she had the eyes of an Egyptian Queen. She was stormy- there were moments when she was either ‘judgmental’ or ‘a piece of crap’, frankly. She was like sticking a 9 volt battery onto your tongue, if doing that also gave you an intense orgasm. I really couldn’t leave her alone for very long at all.
Anyway, if you believe my asshole drummer friend, she was fat, and yes emphatically I would fuck that fat girl. Had she been thin, well, I wouldn’t say she was a ‘judgmental piece of crap’ all at the same time, but the bits of it from time to time, and since she was so thrilling I put up with a certain degree of filth… thin wouldn’t have mattered. I did date her, so I have to say I would, but by no means could her character in a global sense be summarized as ‘judgmental piece of crap’, she was 100 things before either of those, though I can see how that aspect could really jump out and change the equation if somebody really had it in spades.
Depends on what you mean by 'Judgemental ’ .
If its because they disagree with you on some topics and you don’t like it , then they’d be the ones better off not bothering .
People have weird ideas about what’s “fat” and it goes beyond actual body composition and into “what I find attractive”. That’s a problem, I think.
I’m 5’9". When I was doing weight training, my high weight was 165. I put on muscle easily and had fairly low levels of fat for a woman. I was a size 12 and looked fabulous. I was not fat, but I was also not small or delicate or dainty (it’s hard to be those things when you’re 5’9" and female anyway). So yeah, some people probably thought I was “fat” when in fact, I was just “big”. I’m going to be big anyway. shrug
Exactly. I’m tall and athletic, and I like it when women are also tall and athletic. My drummer friend was kind of a scrawny twerp, so who knows, to him the Army girl very well may have seemed like a beast.
Now I have a date with an ultrarunner (to go running, what else?) She is certainly thin, not tall either, but some of you may not realize just how good legs can look… anyway, she is also very sweet and humble AFAICT. If she turns out to actually be a judgmental piece of crap, well that would be a shame, I wouldn’t want someone making me uncomfortable all the time even if they are a professional athlete.
Meh. I like hot women, of course, but it doesn’t seem like I stick with a particular type. I think some guys are zeroed in on bodies or getting laid and don’t really get to know a person. Obviously I’m not the first to notice, hence the thread.
but when I came across your post it got me thinking. I used to be “worried” about what slim girls thought of me, of course at that time I was 6’1" 190lbs and 18. Now I’m 28 and 250lbs I’ve been the military and working every day. Now I’m actually worried about how bigger (not obese) women think. I mean damn there has been quite a few occations where these women give me the stink-eye every time I talk to them. So my question is: Are thicker women the new slimmer women?
I think you’re just discovering that women can be judgmental pieces of crap regardless of their size.