WWTSDMBD? - What Would The SDMB Do? (construct the most tortured hypothetical)

We’ve all been in a situation exactly like this - you’ve crashed your car into a tree and it’s starting to burn - but in the passenger seat, trapped by the crushed dashboard is your only child - who may grow up to be the saviour of humanity.
To make matters worse, there is rescue equipment available, but it is in the possession of a vicious madman - he’s prepared to let you use it, but only if you stamp on the heads of three dozen live kittens - he also expects you to do this live on TV (he’s brought the TV crew with him and everything).
Except, wait - they’re not kittens, they’re baby Tasmanian Tigers - considered extinct, but it turns out the madman has been captively breeding them - but you’re being asked to wipe out the entire stock at once - rendering them truly extinct.
The president of PETA is standing by, looking angry, as is the chairman of the Worldwide Fund For Nature - there’s really no telling what they might do.

You have two choices only - stomp the baby animals and save your child, becoming the world’s worst villain, or save them and appease the whole world, letting your child live. For some unexplained reason, you’re not allowed to use your creativity to or imagination to find any other options.

WWTSDMBD?

So… the purpose of this thread is not to answer the above tortured hypothetical, it’s to construct one even more tortured, unlikely, and stupidly provocative - feel free to create your own from scratch, or embellish and extend those already posted here and elsewhere.

Supposedly a “real” final test for an ethics class (and no doubt from the late 80’s/early 90’s due to the reference to Bo Jackson). Found on the interent, doesn’t need any embellishment:
INSTRUCTIONS: making abundant use of course materials, compose a closely reasoned essay answering the following question bearing on one of the course’s central themes (ethics and technology). Limit: 6 Blue Book sides.

Consider The Following Case:

On Twin Earth, a brain in a vat is at the wheel of a runaway trolley. There are only two options that the brain can take: the right side of the fork in the track or the left side of the fork. There is no way in sight of derailing or stopping the trolley and the brain is aware of this, for the brain – unlike Bo – knows trolleys. The brain is causally hooked up to the trolley such that the brain can determine the course which the trolley will take. On the right side of the track there is a single railroad worker, Jones, who will definitely be killed if the brain steers the trolley to the right. If the railman on the right lives, he will go on to kill five men for the sake of killing them, but in doing so will inadvertently save the lives of thirty orphans (one of the five men he will kill is planning to destroy a bridge that the orphan’s bus will be crossing later that night). One of the orphans that will be killed would grow up to become a tyrant who would make good, utilitarian men do bad things, another would grow up to become John Sununu, while a third would invent the pop-top can.

If the brain in the vat chooses the left side of the track, the trolley will definitely hit and kill a railman on the left side of the track, “Leftie,” and will hit and destroy ten beating hearts on the track that could (and would) have been transplanted into ten patients in the local hospital that will die without donor hearts. These are the only hearts available, and the brain is aware of this, for the brain knows hearts. If the railman on the left side of the track lives, he too will kill five men, in fact the same five that the railman on the right would kill. However, “Leftie” will kill the five as an unintended consequence of saving ten men: he will inadvertently kill the five men rushing the ten hearts to the local hospital for transplantation. A further result of “Leftie’s” act would be that the busload of orphans will be spared. Among the five men killed by “Leftie” are both the man responsible for putting the brain at the controls of the trolley, and the author of this example. If the ten hearts and “Leftie” are killed by the trolley, the ten prospective heart-transplant patients will die and their kidneys will be used to save the lives of twenty kidney-transplant patients, one of whom will grow up to cure cancer and one of whom will grow up to be Hitler. There are other kidneys and dialysis machines available, however the brain does not know kidneys, and this is not a factor.

Assume that the brain’s choice, whatever it turns out to be, will serve as an example to other brains-in-vats and so the effects of its decision will be amplified. Also assume that if the brain chooses the right side of the fork, an unjust war free of war crimes will ensue, while if the brain chooses the left fork, a just war fraught with war crimes will result. Furthermore, there is an intermittently active Cartesian demon deceiving the brain such that the brain is never sure if it is being deceived.

QUESTION: Ethically speaking, what should the brain do? Justify your answer.

Tell all the people present that the world will put them away till Hell freezes over if they don’t help you remove the kid from the vehicle. Say fuck you if they don’t help, and beat the newsman and evil man to death with the camera. Use the rescue equipment on the car and then kill the damn tigers to spite the onlookers that condoned not helping in a death threat situation. Stuff the tigers down each of the onlookers throats untill they asphyxiate. Put the bodies in the wreak and torch it.

I hope I understood what you were looking for. Otherwise never mind.

This one is sooooo easy based on the italicized part of the underlined sentence. Obviously we kill Rightie so we can get the bastard who wrote this question.

My head hurts.

Re: brain on a trolley
This is easy!

Oh.

Feed him the dead truck driver.

It’s a well-established ethical principle that brains in vats are eeeevil; thus the brain should use the eeny-meeny-miney-moe method of decision and laugh (to itself) with maniacal glee over any dastardly consequences, real or imagined (how does a brain in a vat know the difference, after all?), that result.

Ivan Ivanovich, the brain’s loyal henchman, rough and tough and used to hardship, is about to face the toughest decision of his life, however. After a fit of conscience he smashes the vat and dumps the brain out to die on the trolley tracks. Ransacking the secret laboratory that the mad brain used to conduct its evil experiments, he finds an old collection of notes taken by the brain many years ago, before it was reduced to a floating cerebrum. The notes lay out a design for an almost-working time machine, and Ivan realizes in a flash the final modification needed for it to succeed.

Building the machine takes months of grueling toil, but Ivan Ivanovich is rough and tough and used to hardship. Finally it’s ready. He flips the switch, the air around him turns inside-out, and in a few instants he finds himself in a field, at harvest time, surrounded by burly peasants. With a thrill Ivan recognizes the antiquity of the technology and the people’s clothing–it’s worked! He’s in the past!

Unable to understand the peasants’ language, he is taken for a simpleton and put to work slaughtering pigs from dawn till dusk; it’s nasty, dreary, unrelenting work, but Ivan Ivanovich is rough and tough and used to hardship. After two and a half months as a farmhand he has almost forgotten his former life when a stranger, a Russian, comes to town with disturbing news: all able-bodied and sentient-minded men and boys in the village are to be conscripted into the Tsar’s army, to be marched off to war in some godforsaken foreign land. It’s a death sentence–but Ivan rejoices because with his rudimentary grasp of Russian (he learned it from his grandmother) he has finally found someone he can communicate with!

The stranger is mean and unsympathetic, and refuses to help Ivan get a berth on a steamer to America until Ivan gives him the tube sock full of marijuana he’s been keeping in his pants for a special occasion, but Ivan Ivanovich is rough and tough and used to hardship. Within a week he’s halfway across the ocean. One day in steerage he meets a mysterious green-eyed devushka who shows an unusual interest in him. He takes her up on deck and they stand at the rail together, watching the cloud-dotted horizon and the sea speeding by. Something about her face is haunting him, something from his memory. He can’t put his finger on it. She, on the other hand, seems mostly interested in his rugged physique and the promising bulge in his trousers (actually his other tube sock, filled with cocaine) and puts her finger on it almost immediately. The touch startles Ivan and he pitches forward over the railing.

His life flashes before his eyes. It’s not the impending impact with a lower deck that shocks him, for Ivan Ivanovich is rough and tough and . . . well, you get the idea. No, it’s the monumental ethical dilemma now before him. For in an instant of free-fall Ivan has realized who the mysterious woman is. That face! That accent! And his grandmother’s strangest story, the tale of the unknown man who seduced her on the ship from the Old Country–I am my own grandpa!, shouts Ivan (to himself). And now . . .

Should he nail her, committing foul incest and giving rise to a line of thieves and henchmen whose wickedness Ivan knows firsthand? Or abstain and damn himself to nonexistence?

What if chemical A was acid glue and chemical B was Hitler? What then?*

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You’re faced with having to row your life raft from your sinking cruise line to one of two nearby vessels.
The one east of you is a threemaster schooner giving off gunfire and noises of pirates whipping hostages tied to it’s masts.
The one to the west is the SDMB trawler, and it charges $14 to climb aboard, but you lost your wallet in the sea and will have to embarrass yourself by asking someone to sponsor you. Plus, you’d be rowing into the sun.
What Would The SDMB Do?

Lift off and nuke it from orbit, its the only way to be sure.

:smiley:

You’re missing the important issue - what channel on TV? The viscious madman offers you three choices: one channel that will go directly to your grandmother’s house, where the shock of seeing you stomp little animals to death will cause her to have a heart attack and die; a second channel that will be broadcast into a classroom full of impressionable schoolchildren, who might be traumatized for the rest of your life by your actions; and a third channel which will be broadcast throughout the Middle East, where it will be used as propaganda to incite anti-American terrorism. Which channel do you choose?

I’ll take channel 2 then blame violent video games.