Yeah I’m grooming them Beastly Rotter who has been here 2 months as opposed to the 12 years I’ve been here where people know me.
I am a straight/bi female. Justin Bieber (and George Clooney, and Matthew McConaughey, and Robert Redford, and Ryan Gosling) are ATTRACTIVE people I would LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH. This does not make me a pervert! This makes me human!
I said you posted things about a celebrity that were weird and creepy. I didn’t say anything about rape at all, and since you have zero chance of ever going on a date with Justin Bieber you couldn’t possibly date rape him. It doesn’t speak well of your grasp of reality that you think otherwise.
Or perhaps you’re just trying to change the subject rather than admit that you did, in fact, post multiple times about how you wished you could buy Justin Bieber’s hair – something you denied doing just hours ago. Either way, you’re not doing yourself any favors here, and you’re only helping the OP in the sense that you’re a more interesting target than he is. But if you’d like this to turn into a thread where people pile on you about your obsession with Justin Bieber then by all means keep on doing what you’ve been doing.
Seriously. Seriously.
SERIOUSLY?!
Go back and read that please.
SERIOUSLY.
How could you possibly think that was serious?
You guys are hilarious!
I DON’T. Where do you people get this? Honestly?
I did suggest two possible reasons why you’d introduce the subject of date rape. The fact that you’re ignoring the second one indicates that I was right, and you were just trying to direct attention away from the fact that you denied posting something that you did actually post.
It doesn’t make much difference to me whether your posts about wishing you could buy Justin Bieber’s hair were serious or not, as my point was that those posts were the reason the other thread – which I didn’t even participate in – turned against you. People didn’t “freak out” because you said you went to a Justin Bieber concert. You got a couple of snarky comments about that, but the freaking out began only when you started talking about how you wanted to buy Justin Bieber’s hair.
That and you don’t even know the guy. He’s just some celebrity you have an obsession with.
Wait. Having glanced at the other thread, you did write approvingly of buying Justin Bieber’s hair, albeit in a lighthearted manner. You claimed that it would be a unique item and cool to have but that forty grande is out of your league. I can’t imagine why this basic, recorded historical fact would be up for discussion. And further: Bieber doesn’t look like a little kid? Are we talking about the same guy? I mean, maybe that’s an old picture — I dunno — but Wikipedia tells me that he just turned 18, so it can’t be that old.
Okay, so in context your behavior does strike me a as a bit creepy. Should this feel more or less skeevy than the adult men who salivated over Chloë Moretz in Kick-Ass? Or my twenty-something coworker who spoke approvingly about the appearance of the Olsen twins way back in 2000?
This is just one of those things you’ll have to deal with. Step back for a minute, take a deep breath, and try to remember that a 40-year-old desperate to justify her attraction to a slight, young-looking teenager just will seem bizarre to most people. If that bothers you so much you simply can’t stand it, I can only suggest cryogenically freezing yourself for a few decades and hoping that social mores have shifted by that point.
Anything else is a recipe for frustration.
:rolleyes: That picture is AT LEAST 5 years old! I couldn’t find the pic I wanted so I’ll randomly fling this one up. Yeah he’s “slight” and effeminate; that doesn’t make me a child molester, that makes me into “twinky” guys is all.
Check out these sissy boys - I hope they never catch on and I can have them all for myself!
I still maintain it would be cool to have Justin Bieber hair. Like I said they were selling it for charity and I thought that was clever. I’m not like “OMGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD I need Justin Bieber’s hair to roll around naked in!” You see the difference, right?
The more umbrage you guys take at this the funner it is. I’m sitting here scrolling through Twitter and absentmindedly eating potato chips and you guys think I have a closet full of handcuffed, weeping 14 year-old boys or whatever. Like I have that kind of energy.
I don’t have an obsession with him. I just apparently know more about him than the rest of you who are I guess socially clueless. His story is really interesting and he does good work. I enjoy following him, via Twitter/Tumblr etc. Not “LOL I’m in the bushes at Bieber’s gramma’s house!”
Like I said, I interact with teenagers and they discuss Justin Bieber and One Direction and Big Time Rush and the Hunger Games and Glee and Dr. Who (They think they discovered that - it’s cute) and all like that so I’m familiar with him, yeah.
And OK I follow him on Twitter just like I follow Colin Quinn and Fred Willard and Kingsley and Donny Osmond and Mickey Dolenz and most of the writers for the Late Show for some reason and all the people involved with Mystery Science Theater but that doesn’t make me OBSESSED with them! It makes me obsessed with INTERNET!
And we are the ones who are socially clueless?
If you say so.
Jesus Luiz (24) just popped the question to Madonna (59).
She’s only 9 years older than his mother!
Good luck to him…I wonder how faithful Jesus will be, when his wife hits 70?
It would be more correct to say you are maintaining this again, after first having denied saying it at all and then trying to pass it off as a joke.
First, you explicitly ask what the difference was between your David Letterman thread and your Justin Bieber thread that caused people to freak out in the latter but not the former:
I answer:
You deny it:
I provide links:
You claim it was a joke, although this post is so vague I suppose you could have been referring to something else:
And then you finally come back around to saying you “still” wish you could have Justin Bieber’s hair, without acknowledging that you’d falsely claimed you hadn’t said this before:
I’m not sure whether your problem is with memory or with honesty, but you’ve got some sort of issue that goes well beyond your fixation on a celebrity. I think – and this is sincere, not snark – that you should be talking to a professional about this.
Oh yeah, and stuff like this, too:
It’s…odd…that you keep making these “jokes” about committing sexual violence against teenagers. You brought up rape out of the blue in response to me, when I’d just been talking about how your posts about wanting to buy Justin Bieber’s hair were weird and creepy. This particular reply about handcuffing boys was made to Paranoid Randroid, who was pretty sympathetic towards you and certainly did not accuse you of anything criminal. A few other posters have also indicated that they think your posts are creepy, but the only allusion to sexual abuse I see from anyone other than you was Beastly Rotter’s remark about “grooming” your online pals – and that was only after you mentioned rape in the same sentence where you claimed to be just trying to help these poor troubled youths.
I frankly do not want to know why you keep bringing up the subject of you sexually abusing teens, that’s the sort of thing I hope a therapist could help you with, but it’s in poor taste and is certainly not lending support to your claims that your interactions with teenagers are healthy and normal.
I find that really difficult to believe, seeing as (again according to Wikipedia) he was “discovered” in 2008. I don’t doubt he looks older than that now, but we’re talking about a very small gap of time — kids grow up quickly and he turned 18 literally days ago. I suppose it’s less creepy if you just became a fan of his, but go back a year or so and the pictures I’m seeing look very much like a little kid to me.
FWIW I never called Bieber effeminate: I called him slight, i.e., small, which contributes to him looking rather childlike. But I also never called you a child molester, I just said your behavior strikes me as a little skeevy. I’m beginning to get the idea you’re into straw-men as well as “twinks”.
Of course. But when someone writes “You expressed the wish that you could buy Celebrity A’s hair”, you shouldn’t respond “Nuh-uh, that’s not true!” when in fact you did, unless you want onlookers like me to suspect you’ve been lying. If your defense is instead that you’re being mischaracterized by an unfair interpretation of events then you should say that instead.
? I don’t think anyone has actually accused you of being a child rapist. Either your behavior is skeevy or it isn’t, some people think it is, and there you go — back to your potato chips. But bear in mind: it’s commonly felt that a good indicator of whether someone is bothered is how adamant she is to convince others she isn’t bothered. I suspect your final paragraph will not have the effect you intend.
FWIW, you’ll probably have the final revenge here — anyone happening to see my browser history will notice I’ve been looking up pictures of Justin Bieber.
I’m going to try an experiment here. I’m a 30-year-old male, relatively normal, at least in the sense of having a loving and long-term relationship with an age-appropriate woman (herself 35). But I’ll admit: I find 15-year-old Hailee Steinfeld (of the recent True Grit remake) attractive. In theory this should be an even less socially acceptable candidate than 18-year-old Justin Bieber.
However: I don’t follow her on Twitter; I don’t relate long stories of giddy fandom; before looking her up on Wikipedia for this experiment I didn’t even know what other work she’s done. If anyone calls me creepy I’ll shrug my shoulders and say, yeah, I guess it sounds that way, but oh well. In short, I’m not a “fan”.
My hypothesis is that I’m not going to be piled on, called a child molester, accused of luring teenage girls into twisted sexual scenarios (or whatever) and coveting the opportunity to buy their hair. And if that’s the case, then the problem isn’t so much that voguevixen finds a teenaged boy attractive — it’s that she’s weirdly invested in this attraction and can’t resist the urge to fiercely defend it.
(This hair business reminds me of someone wayyyy back, over a decade ago, when I used to follow an unofficial They Might Be Giants discussion email list. There was a girl very creepily into John Linnell — and I mean the not-funny, severely mentally ill kind of creepy — who related having stolen his used coffee cup at a restaurant, among other offenses. This is the kind of ballpark voguevixen seems to be in.)
It’s this mostly. It’s fun to watch people squirm when I flop a Justin Bieber singing toothbrush and a Bop magazine down next to my jug of Smirnoff and frozen pizza in the checkout lane. Trolololo!
Why not though? That’s fun. Is your life fun? I guess for fun some people go hiking or skydiving or clubbing or whatever but I go to work and come home and pay the bills and get on the internet and look at GIFs of members of One Direction getting their hair combed. I’m easily amused I guess.
Why would they squirm at that? They probably assume its for your child or you’re buying it to be ‘ironic’.
exactly
voguevixen, I’m one of a small remaining handful of Haley Joel Osment fans. Last month, or maybe it was January, a film Haley was in premiered at a film festival in Santa Barbara. Some other fans asked if I would be going, and the first thing I thought of was you. That woman from SDMB who bled money all the way down to San Francisco to see Justin Bieber, and didn’t even enjoy the concert. So I told the others that I wouldn’t be going. I said it wouldn’t just be the ticket; it would be gas, food, parking, maybe a hotel/motel, and probably other hidden costs, and if I had that much money at a moment’s notice, I’d spend it on getting new shock absorbers, instead of putting more wear and tear on my car.
Added to which, we knew Haley wasn’t in the movie much, and might not be at the festival (he was, but no panel discussions or anything worth hanging around for), and that the movie itself didn’t look so awesome we couldn’t wait for DVD (I’d be amazed if it shows up anywhere else), so they didn’t press it. I might have gone if I’d known weeks or months in advance, and researched the other films on the bill so I’d get the most for my money, and if I could have gone with Mr. Rilch, or with a friend if he’s away. As it was, though, not happening.
Huh. I guess I’m confused. You just said you like to watch people squirm, right?
I wondered why they would, seeing as most people would assume it was for a child or think you were being funny.
The only way I could see people squirming was if you made a point to tell them “no, really it’s for me. Seriously, I’m a huge fan!!!”
In which case, the squirming probably has more to do with the jug of Smirnoff?
