Oh, while we’re mentioning thigns we shared amongst the opening color, I only shared a hidden trait with one person: Like Pleonast, I keep my stuffed Clawdia on my bedside table.
Does that mean that Pleo and I share a bedroom? Eugh.
Well, she said “the link mtgman sent”.
Of course I got my pm from NAF. Did anyone get theirs from mtgman?
I got mine from NAF, as well.
Eww, sharing a cat and/or room with Dio? Someone push me off a cliff. 
Interesting point about faith. But cornering a newbie because he’s had extra communication with a mod seems borderline meta-gaming (which I’ve never liked). But it is something to think about. I’d rather give him the benefit of a doubt on Day One. We can always lynch him Tomorrow.
Oh, just checked my role PM: from NAF.
In the interest of getting a hop on the scum here, I’m going to suggest we all do claim our dossier information.
Without any power roles capable of telling us what the secrets are, I can’t see how the daybreak revelations are going to help us unless we have info to start with. While I know that the scum will lie about their info, they’ll have to include at least some truthful bits in their reveals, because they won’t want to have all unique information. They don’t yet know what will be revealed when they kill, so getting them to make their fake claims out of the way as soon as possible, we have a leg up.
To start things off, here’s my dossier, beyond the opening revealed clue:
I have had a conversation with Laurence Fishburne, I provided a line in a song that became a top 20 hit for the band Traffic. I’ve been bitten by a tiger. I had my last cat, Clawdia, professionally preserved and she sits in my bedroom. I have had a conversation with Michael Chiklis.
So… I’m a cat person who hangs out with tough-guy actors, I’ve been to the tonight show, and I’ve got something in common with Roy (or was it Sigfried?).
If we’re going to do a full reveal, before proceeding any further we need a way to randomize the order, I think. I have a couple ideas I’ll post in a bit…
**Faithfool’s ** opening post pinged me as soon as I read it. Link? Other confirming? Hmmmm. Danger Will Robinson!
Vote Faithfool.
Interesting that **Pleonast ** wants to give her the benefit of the doubt since this is her first game. It’s unfortunate for her, but I’m going to vote for who I think is scum regardless of their experience in the game.
I’m trying to figure out how else we could use the dossiers if we don’t reveal them from the onset. I mean, I suppose there is the concern that since we’re not quite certain about how they work (like, do overlaps between dossiers MEAN anything?) and also the concern that scum might (will?) lie about theirs and then we’ll have a whole bunch of misinformation to muddy up the waters… but without knowing anything about anyone, the information we get upon each death becomes rather meaningless.
I’m pretty sure my PM was from NAF; I’ll go check.
I’m pretty sure that NAF1138 sent all of our PMs. Put down the torches and pitchforks, everyone.
Yes, 'tis from NAF.
Also, this may be meta-gaming, but somehow I don’t see Mtgman as the type of mod to help a player out of a hole they’ve dug themselves, newbie or not.
OK, let’s start with the original player list, but remove Rugger, Pleonast, and Diomedes.
1.storyteller0910
2.HazelNutCoffee
3.Freudian Slit
4.brewha
5.MHaye
6.ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
7.sachertorte
8.Hawkeyeop
9.ShadowFacts
10. One And Only Wanderers
11. Rysto
12. Hal Briston
13. faithfool
14. zuma
15. Hockey Monkey
16. Kat
Utah/Portland is in the second quarter as I type this, and LA/Golden State is in the first.
Take the total number of points from Utah/Portland, take whatever the remainder is after evenly dividing by 16. Add 1, and that person reveals first. Maybe someone can word it better than me, but let’s say there is 190 points scored. 190 can be evenly divided by 16 11 times, with a remainder of 14. Add 1 and Hockey Monkey would reveal first.
Second person to reveal would be LA/Golden State, with the list trimmed to 15.
Sound fair? Then we can proceed beyond that with tomorrow’s games.
I understand some people may not favor revealing, but let’s at least get a randomized list out of the way if we choose to use it in the future.
FTR, I’m totally against revealing but if we’re going to do it zuma’s suggestion is brilliant.
Yeah, we just need to get a random list in order instead of having the people in favor of it just revealing. Who knows what advantage scum could gain by putting their reveals in particular spots.
Then what about the ‘other confirming’, then? It sounds patently like what an unthinking scum might reveal… and it could very well be that NAF is handling the vanilla players and mtgman is handling the scum.
I claim my second amendment right to keep and bear pitchforks.
Here is my proposed schedule for determing placement on the random list:
Friday:
1 - Utah/Portland
2 - LA Lakers/Golden State
Saturday:
3 - Charlotte/Atlanta
4 - Memphis/Orlando
5 - Sacramento/Washington
6 - Philadelphia/Cleveland
7 - Indiana/Miami
8 - New Jersey/New York
9 - Phoenix/New Orleans
10- Dallas/Houston
11- Minnesota/Milwaukee
12- Denver/San Antonio
13- Seattle/Utah
Sunday:
14- Golden State/Detroit
15- Boston/Toronto
16- Portland/Denver
Until then I don’t think anyone should reveal any more.
That sounds a little overly complicated. Why not just go with the remainder of the Jazz/Blazers game/16 as the ‘seed’, and count down from there?
Yeah, I guess we can do that. We’re making the assumption that the scum were randomly chosen from the player list. Even if they were not it could hurt scum as much as help them, depending on the first to claim.
Why exactly do we add the 1? I don’t have anything to hide. In fact, I have something interesting to contribute. But if we don’t add the 1, then **zuma ** would be the first to reveal. I have to wonder if he arbitrarily added the 1 so he wouldn’t have to go first.
I was about to post this tidbit anyway because I think it’s important. Apparently I share an attribute with a killer because I once drove a VW Beetle through the front door of a 7-11. Knowing that I am a very happy and satisfied associate, I now know that the disgruntleds do not have “unique only to scum” attributes. I have no idea how this puzzle is going to be put together in the end. I think it is some sort of logic puzzle, and I’m fairly good at those.
My full dossier:
Hockey Monkey - I graduated from college over 9 years after enrolling, and I was nearly expelled twice.
I got an autograph from Billy Crystal on top of the World Trade Center.
I’m in favour of making mandatory both organ donation and the use of human corpses as a source of meat. (eww!)
I once drove a VW Bug through the front door of a 7/11.
I have gone to Disney World 3 times and Disneyland at least 5 times
I have held 5 American Bald Eagles.
All but 2 of my attributes have numbers in them. I’m already starting to see some patterns in what others have revealed compared to mine. I won’t do any premature dossier analysis until we have them all. Anyone who refuses to reveal will get a FOS from me.
Because if the score is evenly divisible by 16, the remainder is 0. There is no player 0. Max the remainder can be is 15, hence adding the 1.
Hockey Monkey, the game is not final. I pulled a number out of the air as an example. Looks like the list as at 15 now :I