[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey]
OAOW, don’t take it personally when I say you haven’t done your homework.
Rysto’s traits about the shoe size and the biker movie are in fact in the Two Truths and a Lie thread. His other traits are in another thread.
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I did search on every page using the words shoe, cruelty, etc etc and only founf the one about the forest fire.
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey]
OAOW, don’t take it personally when I say you haven’t done your homework.
Rysto’s traits about the shoe size and the biker movie are in fact in the Two Truths and a Lie thread. His other traits are in another thread.
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The other traits are in another thread? Sweet! I’m hoping you are going to cover all this in your spreadsheet?
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pGFzeVMas_HcWdROWFdQNLA
Hopefully this link works.
[QUOTE=brewha]
The other traits are in another thread? Sweet! I’m hoping you are going to cover all this in your spreadsheet?
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The other thread, for everyone’s edification, is right 'chere
I printed out the thread days ago and have been through it with a fine tooth comb. There are a couple of people with some discrepencies on wording. If you look at the spreadsheet, it notes the player, the reveal order, the trait, who shares that trait with them, and the thread that it came from.
I will update it when Hal posts his dossier.
Either everyone figured out where the traits came from or the scum did a good job of copying others, or no one lied. No one has made up a trait out of whole cloth.
There are quite a few traits that are shared, and some that are not. This is where I think the pattern lies.
By the way, the status column that says true or lie, I gave up on because not all of the posts were answered.
Okiee doke – here’s my list:
I have a near phobia of octopi. (Public)
I started a forest fire by playing with matches.
I have gone to Disney World 3 times and Disneyland at least 5 times
I sat next to Robert Plant at Fat Tuesdays.
I have performed on stage at Branson, MO.
I believe that homosexuals should be allowed to be as miserable as straight couples. If they want to get married, let them.
As for who else was honest with their dossier reveal: Beats me. As far as I’m aware, the entire 7% secret was me having a copy of faithfool’s dossier. I only hinted that I might have had more info that that in order to encourage honest reveals from the scum.
Crap, the Chuck Norris thing is in the 2ta1l thread. So, if no one made up traits, I can’t see how the dossier will help at all at this point.
Another chunk of data that might be good for Hockey’s spreadsheet is who said what first. The unshared one-offs are easy, i.e. I was the first one to state “I believe that corporations and the wealthy are no longer sufficiently taxed.” and it is not yet shared by anyone else. You could fill the cells with one color for the unshared statements, and another color for the first person to publicly state each of the shared traits.
Updated spreadsheet. Sheet 1 is sorted according to trait, sheet 2 is sorted by reveal order. I’m going to step away from this for a few minutes and let you guys have a go at it.
Hal’s characteristics pinged me as lies, but that may be because his last trait was actually my post in that thread.
Sorry that I didn’t get time to post yesterday. Work and family are tricky to balance this time of year.
I’ve put together a Google doc with everyone’s Dossier. I’m still missing a few. I’ll go back through the thread and do a more thorough search. (On preview, Hockey has out-done me. Great job!)
zuma, thanks that you trust me, but trust lists haven’t worked so well in the past. Scum like to use them as target lists (taking out the Townies that people trust). Scum will also publish their own trust lists to try to gain the confidence of Townies (oh, he trusts me, he must be on my side) or bring down Townies when they go down. Better to avoid using trust lists altogether. Mistrust lists are useful, of course.
About delaying the end of the Day: as a game mod, I would never extend the Day, but I used firm-fixed end points in my game. Flexible end points are too easy to game. But since our handsome moderators have given themselves some flexibility, I don’t see any harm in begging for an extension.
We’ve kind of screwed ourselves by concentrating too much on the Dossiers, which is why I advocated everyone throwing them out quickly. They’re not going to help us immediately; we simply needed them on the record quickly so the Scum couldn’t manipulate them. I suggest we concentrate on picking our lynch target now, and do analysis later.
For the moment, I’m going to
vote Hal Briston
for encouraging everyone to post their Dossier, while conveniently keeping for his last. And no explanation of his “secret”.
On preview: he’s revealed now. But his explanation really bugs me. faith made a bad “slip”. I’m not sure about his alignment, but I’ll give the benefit of a doubt at this point. I’m not going to meta-game about Mtgman’s reply. For now, faith has an extra mark of suspicion, but not enough for a Day one vote. Yes, I’m soft-hearted to newbies.
But then Hal says faith is truthful about the Dossier. He claims it’s because he knows his Dossier. No one else’s, only faith’s. Well, because of the set up with this game, I’m extremely suspicious of any claims of perfect knowledge. Their aren’t supposed to be any power roles, so the only players with extra knowledge should be the Scum.
So I see three scenarios:
Overall, I’m happy with my vote on Hal.
On second preview: I got to stop typing and post at some point. 
[QUOTE=brewha]
NAF, can we get an extension?
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While managment appreciates your attempt to think outside the box on this project, in this case your solution to the problem at hand undermines several of the company’s long term goals.
Take it back to the drawing board. The deadline can’t be moved toDay.
I can’t get to docs.google at work, so I had to post a screenshot of my spreadsheet. It’s pretty self explanatory. The traits are abreviated, but enough is there to know which trait is which. The ones highlighted in yellow mean that they are shared. I don’t know if this helps or not.
Thanks for the ruling NAF
also, per the spreadsheet, the traits are listed in order - kinda. I listed all of mine first, then all the public ones, then any new ones in the order they are revealed.
first link doesn’t work. try this one
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...s_HcWdROWFdQNLA
Sheet 1 is sorted by characteristic
Sheet 2 is sorted by reveal order
Both sheets have the non-shared traits in blue text. I thought it was important to note the reveal order.
Nice work, Hockey, even if you do turn out to be scum. 
I’m thinking the secret is the fact that all the Dossier statements came from those two threads.
And either the Scum have told the truth about their Dossiers or are smarter than I am.
Hockey’s link in post %536 no workie for me…
I may be duplicating some work here, but here is the amount of traits by player that are unique, copied, and original but lated copied, amoung players private traits.
Unique = U
Copied = C
First=F
Pleonast
2U, 1C, 2F
Diomedes
2U, 1C, 2F
Hockey Monkey
2U, 3F
Zuma
2U, 1C, 2F
Faithfool
2U, 3C
Rysto
1U, 1C, 3F
HazelnutCoffee
1U, 2C, 2F
Brewha
4C, 1F
Storyteller
3U, 1C, 1F
Cookies
1U, 3C, 1F
Mhaye
1U, 4C
OAOW
4C, 1F
Sachertorte
4C, 1F
Shadowfacts
3U, 2C
Freudian Slit
1U, 4C
Kat
1U, 4C
Hawkeyeop
2U, 3C
Hal Briston
1U, 4C
Feel free to double check my work. More thoughts later
The link worked for me.
I know we shouldn’t be over-analyzing the Dossiers yet (running out of time to lynch), but I couldn’t help but notice that later-posted Dossiers tend to have more overlap than earlier ones. Might be confirmation bias, so someone needs to check more carefully. Copying an earlier revealed Dossier statement from a Townie is an obvious technique that Scum might take. But the Dossiers are only a distraction at this point.
Can we have a vote count?
We really need to start up the lynching discussion. It’s going to take ten of us. Everyone needs to put out a vote today (Thursday) so we can narrow down our choices and pick someone tomorrow (Friday). If too many of us delay discussion and voting, we’ll end up with a rushed lynch that helps the Scum more than us.
