Okay, you sound pretty reasonable, and, IMHO, her positions themselves are entirely pit-worthy, just as if you had this conversation with someone on the street.
I just didn’t think that they required the, “Fire the witch, fire the witch!” response from some other posters. I wasn’t there, and don’t know the exact situation, so I’ll be happy to give you the benefit of the doubt.
As for calling her fat, I’m okay with it. I know that the SDMB has a bit of a Chub-erati, but for most people, yes, your weight is something that you can control, and it’s something that people should feel free to mouth off on or pick at people about when pitting people. I mean, we already call people evil for driving SUV’s…
Yeah, well, you’ll notice that I made no mention of the fat comment before, because it seems like it wasn’t focused on too much in the OP and, you know, eh.
And yes, sometimes when you’re pissed you throw in every conceivable insult that might apply to a person, no matter how irrelevant it is to what they’ve actually done. However, when you bring up something that is not related to the actual offense the person has committed, you’re often asking for trouble. And I never saw the reasoning, “Well, they can do something about it” as a justification. It really isn’t anyone else’s business whether or not they can do something to change a certain aspect of themselves, as long as it isn’t hurting anyone else and isn’t really relevant to the discussion.
So, this is why it isn’t a good idea to bring up everything but the kitchen sink about a person—someone is going to take offense. For instance, “Why, you Arkansansan, poodle-owning, rap-music-listening, Macintosh-computer-using, Sears-shopping, recipe-stealing ASSHOLE!” might get a lot of rap-music fans from Arkansas, who own poodles (and who shop online at Sears on their iMac), wondering what the point of that all was, if all that was really pissing off the person was that someone stole her recipe.
Anyway, that’s just my take on it. I’m not really singling out the OP, because I thought her mention of the fat thing was pretty minor. Had I a problem with it, I would have mentioned it sooner.
I did not call her anything. I kept my cool and told her I didn’t want to discuss the abortion thing anymore. When we moved on to discussing movies as a “safe” topic, she started in about Colin Farrell playing a “homo”, and how the “homos are forcing us to accept them and glorify them”. Sounds to me like she’s been watching a bit too much of the church channel.
Also, is it just a coincidence that this girl has her car literally plastered with Bush stickers?
I don’t think she should be fired for this. I never said or implied that. I said that I didn’t know if I could continue to work with her, and I might seek other work if it means not having to see her for 8 hours every work day. I know it sounds lame, but this girl is making me ill! There’s more stuff that I haven’t even posted in the thread!
Yeah. I know some Democratic voters who make racist comments about black people and intolerate comments about gay people. It’s that same sort of coincidence.
Sounds like this woman is a freaking waste of flesh to me, but I’ve yet to have a work situation where I liked all my co-workers. In fact, in most of my jobs, I’ve had a group of wonderful people with one or two people whom I loathed. I can’t necessarily claim I’ve worked with anyone as bad as this woman, but I suspect I have. I can’t understand why one bad co-worker, and a low-level one who’s unlikely to stay long at the job at that, would lead you to quit your job. I’d have a hard time keeping my mouth shut around someone like her, but I’d do it anyway. It’s not worth quitting a job because you have one co-worker you dislike. I don’t see what it will accomplish, and if she’s making you that miserable, I think you need to do some work inside yourself.
It’s hard to be tolerant of horrible, horrible, worthless bitches like this woman, but we all have to learn to do it sometime. Those people will always be around, and you can’t hunt 'em down and kill 'em like they deserve, so you have to learn to put up with 'em. Come home, rant about her to your SO if you’ve got one, or your friends, or here in the Pit. But stay on the job, and keep your mouth shut, and wish her a nice evening when you leave every day. Because it’s the least stressful, most pleasant way to deal with that kind of person.
What frightens me is what’s gonna happen with the coworker comes back to work? Is this girl going to go around making comments like that about said coworker behind her back-or to her face?
Now, when I had my tubal ligation, the nurses not only gave me a little paper with things to watch for in the next few months to years, they also explained in very careful detail some possible side effects.
One of the most serious potential dangers was a tubal pregnancy. If that were to actually happened, it would have become unbelievably excrutiatingly painful in a very short period of time.
So yeah, she’s a lying nutjob. I’d avoid any conversation more involved than what to have for lunch with this creature. If she butts in, as she did before, just ignore her, or say, I’m sorry you’re not rational enough to discuss grown up issues with. (well okay, don’t say that out loud :D), but you get the drift.
Is this girl married? She’s only 22, there’s a good chance she’s not, and if so, well, how’d she get a tubal pregnancy? Since she’s all concerned about God’s will and mindful of how sinful some actions are, I’m sure she wouldn’t, you know, fuck outside the bounds of holy matrimony, would she? Why, that would make her a hypocrite!
Just thinking offhandedly about something you might want to point out to her if she continues ranting about how “sinful” the other hairdresser, the homos are other people who are not her are.
Excalibur butted in to respond on Gobear’s behalf with unequivocal banality over the term “homo”:
I’m sure that if he sees this, he’ll pretzelize it into something almost rational, but in the meantime, it could be the case that if you and I consider “homo” to be as bigoted as “fundie”, we are engaged in our usual mindless ranting.
“That’s the political agenda of the homo group, Act Up.”
“That’s the political agenda of the homosexual advocacy group, Act Up.”
I think it’s in the intent of the speaker to be pejorative or not. If in practically every case, the term “fundie” is used in a pejorative context, then the term is clearly pejorative. Same same for “homo”.
Weirddave, the person in question is married. I’m not sure how long she’s been married. I worked with her for about a year or two. I think it was when she was ages 16-18. She wasn’t married then, but of course it would’ve been illegal. She quit due to the fact that she was expected to work. Yeah, she was a charmer back then too.
I don’t remember her being deeply religious, but it’s been almost four years. I do remember her being a major pain in the ass. I was her supervisor and it took an act of boot to get her rear in gear. She spent a majority of her time eating, talking, or smoking.
Ooh, you completely hijacked a thread just to get a dig in at me! Wow, I feel important!
Liberal dear, using the term “homo” in a pejorative way in order to condemn all homos and loudly proclaim your disgust for us is bigotry. Using the term “homo” in order to make reference to a particular homo in a neutral or positive way is not. It’s tough for you, I guess, to understand grey areas. However, rest assured that “homo” is frequently used amongst homos that I know.
However, others may well disagree - that’s called a “difference of opinion”. I’m not an agent of the PC Overlords, and it’s not valid to act as though my say-so justifies your asshattery earlier in the thread. I’m just a homo who was irritated at the implication that I shouldn’t be allowed to use a perfectly useful word.
See, that’s the thing you “anti-PC” types never seem to get. The words themselves are secondary to what’s being said. If you say something offensive and bigoted, and others are offended, well, that’s the natural result of your actions. In the linked thread, you tried your hardest to control the discussion and prevent others from using a word you don’t happen to like; I don’t do that. I was under the impression that that was the discussion tactic the anti-PC crowd hated so much. And I don’t do it. You, apparently, have no trouble with it, so long as it’s in defense of one of your pet issues.
I have a hard time leaving without a response to insults like this. But Liberal, I’d like to request that if you wish to continue this discussion, that you discontinue this hijack and open another thread or send me an email.
By the way, next time you wish to hijack a thread in an attempt to insult me (I hate to overuse the “monkey flinging shit” analogy, but it really fits with you), please spell my name right.
