I really wish you’d done that and I’d appreciate it if you’d do it now. Since my views on homosexuality are a matter of public record around here, I won’t comment on my opinion of you. I will say that I am ashamed that I ended one hijack started by a man who used to be a close friend only to see this thread taken over by a worse one.
I agree that rwjefferson probably isn’t the brightest poster we’ve seen here and I’m sure his intentions are good. I’m just getting tired of saying, “Please don’t say that. It’s not true.”
For those who apologize, your apologies are accepted and I apologize if I was too snark. As for you, DocCathode, if I weren’t a gentile and spoken for, well, I believe the traditional phrase around here is, “How are you doing?!” Angua, I also wanted to thank you.
Seriously, it seems it doesn’t take much to lose your friendship. It would seem to me that Lib responded directly to the intent of your OP which was to trash rwjefferson with the weight of this community. Because rw held beliefs contrary to yours? I see your intent, Lib clearly saw it and as a good friend, he was not afraid to confront you . I find your objective in the OP counter- productive to your general tolerance for other’s beliefs.
And why is this neccessary?
Haven’t you trashed him enough already?
To rwjefferson’s credit, he has not bothered to support his belief on who or who isn’t a christian. To do so would obviously upset some people around here. But I understand where he is coming from. Personally, I’ve come to learn that accepting Jesus is accepting His word as exemplified by the Good Samaritan. I never read anywhere if he accepted Christ and got baptized. Just like millions of others who have never heard of Christ. I think that view has primarily been taught to me by your good friend Polycarp.
So Seige, please take my words from a fellow believer in universal salvation as intended to help you.
I’d planned to participate in this more. It looked like a interesting thread. I posted once (waaaaay back, on page one. go on, I’ll wait), then got sucked into work such that I didn’t even get to look at the boards again that day.
Yikes.
Well, not that anyone cares anymore by this point, but Finn Again carried my basic point pretty well. A little farther, actually. I now understand what Liberal was trying to say, but at the time I interpreted it differently. In my case, too much use of the word belief and not religion. They way everyone, including Liberal, kept describing beliefs, I felt he was including Atheism within that.
Liberal, this, I believe, is an example of getting too semantic for your own good again.
Jinwicked, I think you’re a first rate cartoonist. And a snazzy dresser.
Well, at least a certain pre-historic…erm…hippo didn’t show up to bash on Liberal.
Right. You may ignore me again, if you hadn’t already.
Hey, I’m simply outspoken on my view that anyone who calls me a deviant and compares me to child rapists is an asshole! Where do you get off questioning my opinions?
See, here’s how it works. When you insult an entire group of people based on a shared immutable characteristic, that’s what know as “being a bigot.” Most people with actual morals consider bigots to be “assholes.” When the group of people you’re slandering happens to be homosexuals, that’s what’s known as “being homophobic.” When someone calls you on this, and you react with 7-point type, that’s what’s known as “getting angry,” or “raging.” Hence, because of your posts, you are a raging, biggotted asshole.
This is more subjective, but its my personal opinion that most bigotry is ultimatly rooted in fear. Fear of change, fear of difference, fear of strangers, ultimatly, fear of yourself. Basically, I think you’re a coward because you’re a bigot.
But, at least on this score, I recognize that I’m using some idiosyncratic definitions that are not shared or recognized by everyone. Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on you being a coward.
Well, gee, I would, but wouldn’t that be kinda… deviant?
No, I am not “a nasty piece of work”. I’m actually quite a nice person. However, I hold different views from others and that apparently entitles them to call me an asshole. On the other hand, I am apparently supposed to just sit still and let them. Sorry, that’s not in my foreseeable future.
As far as other societies go, I’ve lived in several of them. None of them condoned homosexuality. Frankly, I don’t care if they do or not. The only society I really care about is here in the USA, because this is where I live. If I were to move to another country and take up citizenship there, then I would care about that society.
And why would you make the claim that “civilized” is foreign to me? Oh, yeah, I forgot. You disagree with me, so that entitles you to make snotty remarks to me.
Excalibre , you might try getting some facts correct before you spout shit like that last paragraph. My first entry into this thread was directly in line with the topic of the thread (here ). The hijacking of the thread began with me being called an asshole here , which was questioned by Anaamikahere , continued here , and then the truth pops up here , where it is announced that I’m being called an asshole over something posted in a totally different and completely unrelated thread. I even commented about the fact that the thread was being hijacked here .
This entire mess came about because
I apparently posted an opinion in another thread that was unpopular,
Others had no comeback to it, so they resorted to ad hominem attacks against me, calling me a homophobic asshole,
My attempt at courtesy to the OP in which I offered to continue the discussion elsewhere was deemed to be cowardice and running away.
And then, of course, you apparently felt you needed to evacuate your bowels without bothering to do a minimum of research on the threadline.
No. Totally and completely wrong. What pissed me off is people like you who have nothing better to respond with than ad hominem attacks. You don’t like what I said, so you call me an asshole. That was the basis for the Kiss My Ass response. If that’s the best you have to offer, amigo, it’s arrogant and it’s pretty damn lame.
And kindly note that nowhere in any of these posts have I called someone an asshole because they disagree with me. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more apparent it becomes: if all you can do is call me an asshole in response to what I post, then what I’m posting is obviously correct.
Siege , my apologies to you for the hijacking of your thread. You had a very valid topic and I’m sorry it got diverted by others into this dead end. I tried once before to exit this thread and I should have at that time. This time I will. I will not respond to any more “Clothahump is an asshole” messages posted here, so all of you that want to call me an asshole because you don’t like my point of view, kindly move over there and form a line to the right.
Yeah, and I’m in love with someone different than you, so that entitles you to call me “deviant.” And I’m supposed to just sit still and let you? Fuck that. Better yet, fuck you. You don’t get a free pass on insulting other people with out drawing insults in return. You don’t like people calling you an asshole? Stop acting like one.
Your comment about Jin makes you “a nasty piece of work”; your stance on homosexuality just makes you a bigot.
Are you seriously trying to say that here in the USA homosexuality is not considered acceptable by most members of society? It may not be your cup of tea (hell, it’s not mine), but that doesn’t make it unacceptable.
This from the queen of snotty remarks? Boo-fucking-hoo…
I confess, I am convinced. I exist. I Am. I even catch a glimpse of your Spirit in your posts.
The Force responsible for existence has many names, many manifestations. I prefer not to get hung up on Words or Cross. My wish is that we Pursue understanding in Peace. We can only hinder this quest when we impose our shared or personal Beliefs on others.