What Would You Do
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If your 16 year old daughter runs from home to shack up and take drugs with a 24 year old man, can you see yourself taking him out ?
I can. I’d probably try to find a way to scare him, then cripple him, but if all else fails I probably would sacrifice my future for my daughter’s.
I probably wouldn’t kill him if I believed she went willingly. I’d sure as hell press charges for statutory rape, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and anything else I could think of…
Wow. I’m amazed that people really do stuff like this. I always tell my daughter, "I’m giving you ALL the knowledge you need to make good healthy choices. I am giving you freedom to have your own ideas, tools to aid in critical thinking and skepticism to protect you from being naive and gullible in this world. If you end up making fucked up choices that mess you all up, I am going to hold on to that as a comfort and hope that softens the blow for me. I am NOT going to blame myself or allow you to drive me coo coo with worry over your rebellions.
She promises me she has no intention of doing anything truly stupid over the course of her terrible teens. She is 12. May god have mercy on my soul.
I am truly amazed that folks actually follow through on shit like this though. That dad wasn’t fucking around.
Now, everyone, enjoy this thread in sweet peace. Relish it and cherish it. It should chug along nicely.
I would not shoot him. I may beat him till he cries like a little girl, but I would not shoot him.
There’s no justifying what he did. There is reason to believe the situation made him act in a way he would normally never act, i.e. I don’t believe he’s normally prone to killing people and I don’t believe he would have if he had total control of his faculties so I am not totally opposed to the reduction in sentence.
That said, he deliberately and intentionally killed someone and it was not in self defense or defense of another’s life or limb. I don’t feel 8 years is enough for that–he took away any chance the deceased ever had to become a productive member of society so that has to be weighed heavily.
No.
I have a 13 year old daughter. At that age she makes a lot of decisions on her own. At the age of 16 she will be making a lot more decisions on her own. I’m her father: I’m not her owner. If she makes poor decisions it’s her fault, not mine. I’ve done my job, and continue to do my job in raising her to the best of my ability. If, at 16, she ignores her upbringing and decides to shack up with a 24 year old then I have failed as a parent. Killing her boyfriend isn’t going to make things any better at that point.
Teenage girls do all sorts of unbelievably idiotic and self-destructive shit and there is nobody to blame for it but themselves.
There’s these guys, called “the police”. Call them. Now, using every bit of leverage and pull you have to make sure the case is sucessfully prosecuted is just fine. But, no personal revenge.
My youngest sister was going out with a known drug dealer and didn’t listen to me and i couldn’t reason with her to leave the guy. one night when she didn’t come home i called his house and got a “friend” who didn’t know where they were. ME: well, as far as i’m concerned she’s been missing for 48 hours and your house is the last place she was at. i’m calling the cops unless you want to tell me now where she is." I got the cell phone number, got her home, and not til years later did i find out (is this true, who knows?) that she was worried that this guy would kill me. obviously he didn’t, and maybe it was a figment of her then fractured imagination. happy to report she is a respectable citizen and makes way more money than me at a great job! and my family is all together, it could have been so much worse…
He killed someone and he’ll get out in only 8 years (at most)? Wow, for killing someone, that seems like nothing. Canada seems to go pretty easy on murderers, going by some of these high profile cases. That 12 year old girl who killed her parents in the Richardson family murders will be out of the justice system by the time she’s 22, and Karla Homolka is out living her life.
Anyway, to get to the point, no, I don’t see myself killing someone in a case like this.
Sure, the boyfriend sounds like a dirt bag, and honestly the world probably is better off without him, but in Canada this daughter was NOT a victim of statutory rape (the age of consent there used to be 14 and is now 16 apparently). It’s not like the dirt bag kidnapped her. Sounds like the daughter chose to live that lifestyle.
Even though I don’t really mourn the dirtbag’s loss, I don’t think I can legally or morally justify killing people just for being worthless dirtbags. Doing drugs and being a dirtbag isn’t a crime that we allow the death penalty for.
No, because I’m not an idiot. Up until she turns 18, the daughter is a minor and her legal guardian has an almost scary level of legal authority (independent of age of consent etc). With the right paperwork, you could have the police bring her home and, if she ever went back to the boyfriend, have him arrested. Resorting to violence is illegal, immoral, and stupid.
Does Kim Walker think there’s only one 24 year old junkie who will shack up with a 16 year old girl? That by killing James Hayward he solved all his problems?
Walker’s problem is that his daughter is making some really dumb decisions with her life. Killing Hayward didn’t fix that problem.
Dad was as dumb as the daughter. Purely emotional reaction, both of them. An unsavoury story all around.
If the daughter is the kind of person to learn, she would have gotten out herself eventually. If she doesn’t learn, she’s a Ronda and there will be another Ron lined up to take advantage of her. And another and another.
Besides, Dad in jail for eight years means dad is not around to help his family out, increasing the chance that his daughter, wife or other kids are having an harder time then necessary.
i think i’m good enough to keep her away from craddle-snatchers without having to kill. and where was the law before the killing?
This. This is exactly what I would wish should we have a girl [wife due in a month]. This is exactly what I plan to do with our child, boy or girl. Now I am not jaded enough to think that their terrible teens won’t challenge me, because I know they will - but if they have the knowledge and wherewithal to meet the world as it is, then I am happy. I made my fair share of mistakes, but I learned and I still have all my limbs.
As for the OP - I’d kill him and make it look like an accident…a hunting accident, no! A logging accident!!
I’d backtrace him and call the cyberpolice.
There was a girl in my class who was hooked up with an older guy. She was probably 16, and I can’t remember how old he was, at least 24. He was living on his own(or at least not with parents) and had a daughter from a previous relationship.
I knew the girl fairly well because we were both in the same relatively small grade(45 people or so). She and I were also both in the same language class which was like 8 people. As well, we both took AP biology which included a trip down to Biloxi, and she rode in the car with my mom and me. I never met the guy.
The dad is as big a moron as the girl. I’d go after the guy for statutory rape and drug charges.
Agreed he was stupid - however, his daughter had reached the age of consent more than two years before moving in with the guy.
He still had parental authority that he might have wielded to better effect than a pistol, though, and his sentence was inadequate for the crime.
Where’s Dio when you need him?