Kiiinda my point.
casdave You state that it’s unlikely that that he will survive prison.
Ian Huntley who murdered Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman is still breathing unfortunately.
This fucker even had the audacity to threaten the Govt. with a “Breach of Human Rights” because his Smarties or Chocolate Buttons were not delivered to him as part of his weekly allowance.
Prison authorities eventually caved in and gave him a large box of chocolate and other goodies.
WTF is the world coming to when child killers can hold the system to ransom like this
Huntley has tried to kill himself several times, and has been attacked by other inmates (incl. being scalded by boiling water).
So it’s not like he’s had it all his own way.
Because in the UK there seems to be a tacit conspiracy going on to discredit the Human Rights Act by stretching it to absurd limits and then blaming it for outrageous kowtowing like this.
Either that or there are a lot of gutless fuckwits about.
As you can see here there is no Article detailing the right of prisoners to sweeties.
All that is needed is authorities to exhibit some backbone and Law Lords to exercise a little common sense.
Police forces in the UK are now being issued specific guidance to ensure criminals are not let off due to misplaced application of HRA.
A recent example was the youths convicted of the murder of a woman at a london christening, which has been in the news this week.
The UK Immigration Service are unable to deport one of the youths due to his age.
However, there is suspicion that he is older than he appears. A good way to check is through dental examination, but police thought this was prohibited under HRA.
It’s not though, and this is what’s prompted the guidance notes.
Maybe it doesn’t specifically state that prisoners are entitleed to sweets but you can bet a pound to a pinch of shit some smart arsed lawyer will find a loophole somewhere within this Human Rights Act.
As you say, it’s high time the authorities grew a backbone…as for the Law Lords…don’t make me laugh. Most of these fuckers have no idea what the real world is all about.
A lot of gutless fuckwits?? there are millions of the bastards andit makes me fucking sick
So what is the “real world”?
Buggering a two-year old girl is hardly the “real world”, certainly not where I live!
There’s no such things as the “ordinary man in the street” yet he’s constantly invoked as the arbiter of UK policy.
I’m wondering what’s going to happen if it turns out that someone else did this, not the person charged? But, then, why would we ever want to get rid of the trial by the press?
In which case he’s guilty of standing by and watching someone else rape and murder his two-year old neice… equally reprehensible.
I don’t want to know either, but before I left Fort Lauderdale in 1995, there was a case where a man was accused (& later convicted) of raping his very young (can’t remember the age, but it was definitely under two year old) son. When asked why - the reply was something like “I wanted to see what it felt like” :eek: I got a feeling he has since found out EXACTLY what it feels like.
The child in question had to have multiple surgeries to correct trauma injuries.
VCNJ~
Do you just parrot everything you read in the The Sun or The Mail? Have you got anything approaching a cite for this?
Not to sound too cold, but, isn’t murder SOP with child molestation? In fact, wasn’t “child murder” the accepted way to refer to child molestation in the old days? IOW, isn’t this basically a “dog bites man” story, and aren’t things better now that this isn’t so normal?
AFAIK, not all the old cases of child murder I have read involved sexual assault. I don’t know where you got that, but I am pretty sure you are at least partially mistaken.
I assume you mean castration with a dull knife and no painkillers followed by a penectomy? :rolleyes: Seriously nobody willing to do (or allow to be done) this to a child merits being called a human being :mad: . The only reason I wouldn’t support executing him is that his suffering would be over too quickly. On the other hand does the UK also have a shortage of transplant organs? 
I’ve seen some old articles where they phrased it thusly: “The child was outraged”. If the victim was dead, they sometimes put it as “The body was interfered with.”
Not necessarily, for two reasons:
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Actual forcible rape in prison is less common than the public believes and is taken very seriously by prison staff. (More common is coercive rape, but again, not every man who goes to prison will be a victim of this.)
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It’s also a mostly a myth that child molesters/child killers are abused by the other inmates*. First of all, other inmates have no way of knowing what crime caused a person to be incarcerated unless the incident was widely publicized or the inmate tells them. Secondly, inmates don’t usually consider themselves Champions of Justice-- they just don’t care, at least, not enough to get themselves into trouble by attacking a child molester. (Exceptions occur, of course, but it’s not a common thing.)
*Women’s prisons are a different story.
Do you honestly think you’ll get a hard cite for this ???
I fill out the necessary reports when I hear things, you will not be party to any of them.
I think it’s safe to say that I know a great deal more about prisons and prisoners than the tabloids will ever know, and probably as much as maybe two or three posters on this board.
He already has a contract on him, as does Huntley, the latter is not a secret, don’t be amazed at the former.There are prisoners who would reward anyone who killed him, just so they could say that had some involvement.
It’s already open season, what you perhaps don’t realise is that other prisoners, who hail from the Gipton estate, look on this as the ultimate disrespect for their area and their own jail cred.
The way to get it back, is for another Giptonite to take him out, it’s sort of like taking care of your own.
Prisoners have a very differant logic and set of values, and occasionally, these appear to coincide with our own, such as hatred for this scumbag, but the reality is they will kill him for reasons beyond the venality of his crime, and more to restore their own status.
Maybe if he actually does survive a few years, perhaps when someone even worse comes along, he will slip from notice, but I recall that the individual who made quite a real attempt at taking out Peter Sutcliffe using pens waited just over 16 years.There’s still plenty hoping for their opportunity.
Apparently he’s been busy helping millionaire atheletes win Superbowls and celebrities win Grammys and Oscars. They profusely thank him all the time as if he really gives a fuck that you won an award. (just a pet peeve of mine).
Not in a million years. It just depresses me when people repeat this rubbish and blame it on the Human Rights Act, which it has nothing to do with anyway.
Touché.