7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

Dude, where’s my freedom?

There’s also the nasty cynical suspicion that they “lost” the car but actually sold it. Admittedly, that’s less amusing than the story of them literally losing it.

It does conveniently avoid the problems of reporting it “stolen”.

Probably they weren’t in a hurry to contact DC police and ask to look for the car in the impound lot.

He absolutely deserves the sentence, but I wish/hope others sucked in by the Big Lie someday come to be as reflective and (it appears) genuinely remorseful:

“I must face my actions head on. … I hope that you and our country never have to face another day like January 6th.” He said he now looks back at his actions and “it literally floors me.” He described himself as “ashamed” and “embarrassed” about his conduct …

Well let’s hope they all get to spend a year in jail to reflect on their remorsefulness and work on their I’m sorry your honor act right before he tacks another almost 5 years on your stay.

By my count the sentence is 5 years 8 months, but he’s been held for 2 years already (since February 10th, 2021) and I believe that counts as time served. So another 3 years 8 months tacked on.

You’ve calculated that right. He’s entitled to time served credit.

If I understand correctly, there are no good-time/work-time credits at the federal level, so he’ll do every single day of that remaining 3 years and 8 months.

Google says federal sentencing allows 54 days off per 365 sentenced for good behavior. If so that could take off about 5 months from his sentence, but even still he’s looking at over 3 more years inside.

Googling further out of curiosity, it looks like there is no federal parole, having been abolished in the '80s. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking of.

Actually, after release from prison, convicts can be subject to a period of what’s called
supervised release (pdf), which can have a number of conditions imposed.

Federal courts sentence almost 75% of the defendants convicted of federal offenses to a term of supervised release. A term of supervised release is a period following a defendant’s release from prison when a probation officer monitors the defendant to ensure compliance with the conditions for the defendant’s release. Under some circumstances, the court may terminate the term of supervised release, extend it, or revoke it.

Supervised release replaces parole for federal crimes committed after November 1, 1987. Like parole, supervised release is a period of restricted freedom following a defendant’s release from prison. The nature of supervision and the conditions imposed during supervised release are similar to those that applied in the earlier system of federal parole. However, while parole operates in lieu of the remainder of an unexpired prison term, supervised release begins only after a defendant has completed his full prison sentence. Where revocation of parole could result in a defendant’s return to prison to finish out his original sentence, revocation of supervised release can lead to a return to prison for a term in addition to that imposed for the defendant’s original sentence.

Interesting. I could have sworn it was here on the board that I learned there were no good-time/work-time credits – but I’ll certainly defer to your Google-fu! Thanks for fighting my ignorance. I can cite chapter and verse on California sentencing guidelines, but that’s a whole different thing than federal. Obviously. :wink:

Thanks again.

It was 15% when I did criminal law way back when. Which is about the 54 days per year mentioned upthread. It’s a lot less than most states, but it’s still something.

You’re the “horse’s mouth” in my book, @Procrustus. Thanks. :slight_smile:

And it certainly is a lot less than most states. In California, it was 1 day for every 2 days served.

LORDY, WE HAVE TAPES!

Audio recordings of Republican officials in Wisconsin, recordings made days after the 2020 election, reveal how the party officially accepted the loss but then changed their position to “the Dems stole the election” based upon the advice from the Trump campaign.

Not sure how you spin that, but there will be spin and deflection.

Except that there is a good chance that he and everyone else involved in the insurrection attempt will be pardoned in less then two years.

This is sort of a weird thought from me.

I believe that the insurrectionist deserver every day they get in prison. I really do.

Their lives will be ruined of course. They will never get a job. Decent people will have to support them.

All because of one man and his lies.

Trump is still a free man. Many lives could have been saved if Trump faced justice a long, long time ago.

I guess prison for his supporters may dissuade other people that try to overthrow the government, but I doubt it. You can fix stupid, but it’s very, very hard to do so. Especially when the stupid side attacks education.

So instead of the carrot, we are left with the stick. It’s sad really.

To be pardoned does not mean that the felony is removed. It’s an admission of guilt. Or am I wrong here?

It’s debatable. The case that says that was based on unusual fact pattern (whether someone could refuse a pardon designed to take away 5th amendment rights)

Many people have been pardoned who have not considered it an admission of guilt.

Yes, still not absolutely nailed down as a principle of American law, unfortunately. See the last two paragraphs here: Burdick v. United States - Wikipedia