Democrats sought redress through our legal system. They didn’t like the results, but they accepted them and did not engage in an insurrection. The January 6th insurrectionists did not like the results, they did not accept them, and they did engage in an insurrection.
Absolutely! I was agreeing with your earlier post and pointing out that Democrats actually demonstrated patriotism by acting as you describe.
Sorry if my squeeze-it-in-between-work-emails haste made that unclear.
I figured it out. 
But it took me a moment’s reflection
You did your best.
One thing I find intriguing is the absence of Lin Wood. He may well be among the unindicted, and since he was neck-deep in the legal shenanigans this raises the possibility that he’s flipping/flipped. Since he was one of the Zeroth Triumvirate along with Rudy and Sidney, that would be terrible, horrible, no good, very bad news for the rest of the team (assuming he’s fully cooperative, which is by no means a slam dunk).
I forgot about him. It is interesting that he hasn’t been mentioned.
My post above should have been in the DOJ/Jack Smith thread. Mea culpa.
Look at it this way. Maybe some on the margins were rescued.
My father sent all his children to private (Catholic) school and always supported public school levies. His rationale was that even though we would probably get a better education the public schools could provide, we would be spending our lives with their students.
This thread is much broader in scope than most, so you’re fine. 
Thanks for thinking about it, though!
I don’t know what Fred Trump would have thought of Donald.
But the dude was elected president. Ex president is a sweet, sweet deal. There is no “catch.” You can sit around and get paid for playing golf and writing crappy books and making crappy speeches. That’s it. You are as made as made can be.
And Trump screwed that up. It’s like Aaron Burr actually becoming president and deciding to kill Hamilton in a duel anyway. Anyone who wonders why the villains talk to James Bond and don’t just kill him, this is why. Because they can’t see success. Trump truly had the biggest success, President, if he’d just shut up and taken it what else can you do in life? But he couldn’t.
This is so true. On Nov. 9, 2020, he could have simply said, “Well we had an amazing four years, and we gave it our best shot. Thanks, everyone!” And he could have been living the dream ever since. He could have found plenty of ways to keep fleecing the MAGAts without pushing the stolen election bullshit – maybe by urging their support for a 2024 run he never intended to launch. And virtually none of these indictments* would be hanging over his head.
But no, he had to be a crybaby.
(*Except perhaps the SDNY case over the Stormy Daniels hush money.)
And he had to, had to remove, hide and lie about having classified military documents so he could wave them around to impress his sycophants.
Trump’s problem is he’s a “I’m only winning if someone else is losing” guy. He doesn’t understand the concept of “Hey Stupid, take this basket of money to go away.” That’s why he’s still hustling decades later despite all of his fame. He’s known so many famous people and had a thousand opportunities to cash something out. But he just doesn’t get how that works.
This. There is a difference between knowledge and belief. I have no doubt that Trump knows he lost the election.
It was all over the TV, internet and it was the headline in every major newspaper. People that liked him told him nicely that he had lost. People that didn’t like him told him not so nicely that he had lost. Airplanes were skywriting “You Lost” over his house. Trucks with signboards that said “You Lost” were circling around using bullhorns to tell him he’d lost. Of course he KNEW he lost.
He’s probably incapable of believing it, even after the helicopter took him away and Joe Biden started sleeping in his old bedroom and working out of his former office. People believe in things they know aren’t true all the time, but that doesn’t mean they don’t KNOW.
I ultimately don’t think what he believed matters one bit, legally - and I’m not sure why anyone feels “Trump believes he’s incapable of losing anything, ever” is any sort of defense.
And the stolen documents/ espionage thing.
Haha, I can’t believe i forgot about that. But even so, if he’d walked away gracefully maybe he wouldn’t have kept so much stuff – and when asked to return it, would have said, “My bad, here you go.”
His inability to accept that he lost, or was wrong, or may have made a mistake, has led his to this precipice.
And apparently on Monday he’s going to release a document that is likely full of outrageous lies, debunked conspiracy theories, and probably outright defamation that is going to land him more lawsuits. This is, of course, if his lawyers don’t get ahold of it first.
He just does not know when to stop shitting the floor.
The average living former POTUS has now been indicted approximately twice.
Please show your math. I’m getting a different answer.
It’s a joke. Not supposed to add up.