Hickenlooper
Bullock
Yang
Klobuchar
Bennet
Then Biden
Definitely he wasn’t in my top three, probably wasn’t in my top five. I was absolutely in favor of Klobuchar, Buttegieg, and Booker over him, likely Gillibrand and Bullock too, and maybe Harris and maybe a couple of others.
Not the first time my top choice(s) didn’t get the nomination. I’m sure it won’t be the last.
That said, he will most certainly get my vote in November.
All the people we think of when we think of The Sixties were Silents. (Not very, I know!) The Beatles were born between 1940 and 1943. Dylan, 1941. Grace Slick, 1939. Janis, 1943. Jimi Hendrix, 1942. Jim Morrison, 1943. Abbie Hoffman, 1936. The list goes on.
Sounds to me like your mom’s crowd.
**Race/Topic** **Poll ****Results ****Spread**
Florida: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 46, Trump 42 Biden +4
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 50, Trump 42 Biden +8
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 49, Trump 41 Biden +8
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 48, Trump 42 Biden +6
Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters FOX News Peters 46, James 36 Peters +10
President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 46, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +5
President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 44, Disapprove 55 Disapprove +11
President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 43, Disapprove 54 Disapprove +11
President Trump Job Approval Politico/Morning Consult Approve 44, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +7
Bonus is a Dem Senate Candidate is well ahead in Michigan.
Also Sanders may scare off college educated whites in the suburbs who find the GOPs authoritarianism, racism and rejection of science scary since they find Sanders desire to implement radical change too much. Biden is less threatening to them.
in a lot of ways, Biden isn’t threatening to a lot of swing voters (rural whites, college educated whites in the suburbs) which is good. Hillary was threatening (she was a smart, independent woman with a 20 year smear campaign behind her) and it cost her a few million votes that hopefully Biden will pick up.
80% of Sanders supporters have already said they’d support Biden. I don’t know if he can get that number up to 85-90% or so, but hopefully he can.
Another good news poll. From Fox News, Biden 46 Trump 43 in Florida. Biden has really pulled ahead in the most important swing state. Florida and almost any other swing state gets Biden elected by the Electoral College.
Please let this momentum keep growing.
Good news, a poll found that voters age 18-29 support Biden over Trump by about the same margins they would support Sanders over Trump.
Hopefully they show up to vote.
Wow, I never thought I’d want to make out with a gun nut before. That’s how beautiful this post is.
Race/Topic **Poll ****Results **Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth Biden 50, Trump 41 **Biden **+9
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 46, Trump 42 **Biden **+4
General Election: Trump vs. Biden CNBC Biden 47, Trump 44 **Biden **+3
Connecticut: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 56, Trump 33 **Biden **+23
New Jersey: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 54, Trump 35 **Biden **+19
New York: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 55, Trump 32 **Biden **+23
President Trump Job Approval CNBC Approve 46, Disapprove 54 Disapprove +8
President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 46, Disapprove 51 **Disapprove **+5
President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 49, Disapprove 49 Tie
President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 45, Disapprove 53 **Disapprove **+8
President Trump Job Approval Politico/Morning Consult Approve 42, Disapprove 52 **Disapprove **+10
Direction of Country Economist/YouGov Right Direction 32, Wrong Track 56 Wrong Track +24
Direction of Country Politico/Morning Consult Right Direction 35, Wrong Track 65 Wrong Track +30
Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos Right Direction 31, Wrong Track 57 Wrong Track +26
May the trends continue!
So obviously these planned votes are very skewed away from Trump and not anywhere near a countrywide “Random Sampling”. I’m NOT asking why that is so here, but rather I’m asking- Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment?
Wrong interpretation, I suspected that Biden was only a small minority of the posters first choice and I was trying to confirm it here and at GB. You’re reading something completely different out of it.
Ok… buy why not answer the queston? Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment?
No poll on a message board is a measure of countrywide sentiment.
Yet the feature is offered on many boards. It’s offered because it’s popular. Possibly people like to get an idea of the reactions and views of their fellow posters. Why would that be a problem?
Fun control is a violation of the pursuit of happiness, dagnabbit.
I did not see this poll before, but I would have picked the first option, Biden as first choice. He’s been my first choice since day one. Most likely to trounce Chump, and anyone good enough for Obama is good enough for me.
Also didn’t see the poll. Biden wouldn’t have been my 10th choice (Warren, Inslee, Sanders (my actual vote), then roughly left to right), but he’ll be my vote on November whatever-th if he’s on the ballot.
It is probably no value to you, but I explained the value to me.
Not to pee on anyone’s parade, but one thing we learned from the last election is that state polling matters, and there’s unfortunately a dearth of good state polling data.
Additionally, voter enthusiasm matters, and this is where it’s going to be really interesting to watch. If you compare Trump against Biden, Trump has the obvious enthusiasm edge. But if you compare the intensity of the pro-Trump vote and the anti-Trump vote, then that is an obvious minus for Trump. Moreover, Biden is not the radioactive candidate that Hillary was. Yes, some of the hardcore Bernie Bros have the same level of animus toward an establishment candidate, but unlike 2016, Trump is not an imagined threat, but a real one and people want his ass out. So that works for Biden. Further still, the Republican party as a brand has very narrow appeal, even narrower than it did in 2016.
For Republicans to win, they have to do two things:
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Their increasingly fragile core has to hold, and it probably has some cracks that need to be patched up quickly.
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They have to find ways to really make Biden unappealing to the point of being a toxic candidate. That’s going to be hard to do. Not impossible, but difficult, especially with the White House having to devote much of its attention to the current pandemic and economic crisis.
The only candidates I liked less than Biden in the primary were Bloomberg and Gabbard. There were a few of the people who never got any traction that I didn’t really know enough about to rate above or below Biden, but all the other major ones I put above him.
If it came down to Warren v. Biden I would’ve had a tough time, because Warren is my absolute top pick for the White House and my basement pick for electability, whereas Biden is probably the most electable but I had a huge problem with him never dissenting from Obama’s participation in both our and Saudi Arabia’s war crimes in the Middle East (I also don’t think this election truly had an Obama that really was significantly more electable than anyone else so it wasn’t a prohibitive factor in my decision). I think I would’ve come down on Biden because I still think Trump is an existential threat to the country, which is why even though I have major problems with Biden it’s not going to feel like a “I have to hold my nose” type election - the choice is still obvious.
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