asahi:
I think everyone knew he was going to be a shitshow, but we disagreed on the reasons. Most of the people who’ve attacked me knew Trump was a shitshow in the making, but they assumed it was because he was an intellectual pygmy and that he would be catastrophically incompetent - I don’t disagree with that assessment at all, btw.
But what I - and others like Thelmalou, like Snowboarder Bo, K9Befriender, and others - have also believed is that Trump represented an extremely dangerous turn in American politics, and one that might ultimately prove fatal to democracy.
Inevitably, if you believed that Trump was just a meandering dolt who would quit (remember that idea? Seems like a long time ago now) - if you believed that, then the idea that Trump was dangerous seemed comical, farcical, and if exposed to that refrain too often, understandably, some posters might have felt inclined to intervene and shut me up.
What I’ve tried to get across is that Trump might be as dumb as a doorknob in terms of knowing about economics and how the political system works, but he’s not dumb when it comes to manipulation. Sociopaths are typically pretty good in that department. Moreover, American democracy itself has been afflicted with a potentially fatal tandem of cynicism, ignorance, and indifference. It’s this social virus that got him elected in the first place, and what does it say about a political culture when his highest approval rating was registered on the same day that Republicans successfully completed a scam trial long after Trump’s blatant corruption had been exposed?
As I said in an earlier post, the first step in getting rid of this Trump problem, this GOP problem is to make sure that everyone understand what the problem is, and just how dangerous it is. Fear is perhaps an appropriate emotion at this time, but an even more appropriate emotion is rage. I’m fucking livid, my blood is boiling at anyone - and I mean anyone - who knowingly (and maybe even unknowingly) supports what the GOP stands for and I’m not going to pretend I’m not. There comes a time when people have to say, I’m not accepting this shit under any circumstances.
Another solid post; again: I agree.
What the fuck are you doing wasting time tearing down someone who is on your side, cmc ?
jsc1953
February 14, 2020, 10:11pm
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asahi:
There would inevitable be threats of secession from within California’s borders as well. I wouldn’t laugh at the possibilities, either. Secession, just like authoritarianism, is going to become more and more of a thing, not just here but globally.
Shoot, California secession would make everybody happy: Californians and MAGAts alike. The only losers would be rational people in the other 49 states.
Because it wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
CMC fnord!
asahi
February 15, 2020, 12:09am
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Nothing, nothing at all. I confess: I used the term Manifest Destiny because I have no idea what it means. I think I heard someone talk about it on the radio once.
:rolleyes:
asahi
February 15, 2020, 12:11am
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He wants to impress you with his “acumen.”
Isn’t acumen some kind of spice used in cooking?
asahi
February 15, 2020, 1:39am
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I don’t know, why don’t you ask that nut, Meg?
p.s. Yes, I’m horrible at puns - I’ll stop.
asahi:
I don’t know, why don’t you ask that nut, Meg?
p.s. Yes, I’m horrible at puns - I’ll stop.
Sage decision. Good thyming.
I cilantro what you did there.
For anyone curious, Manifest Destiny was the belief in the innate superiority of white American settlers, and that their destiny was to occupy and control all of America from coast to coast, at a time when much of the west was still ‘Indian territory’. it was big in the early to mid 1850’s, and used to justify all sorts of shitty actions against the ‘savages’ that occupied the land.
Monty
February 15, 2020, 2:51am
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You seriously had no idea what the term manifest destiny , one of the major excuses given for the conquest of North America from coast-to-coast over the last two centuries, means?
asahi
February 15, 2020, 3:42am
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I had absolutely no idea at all. I just write random shit. Like, I could have just as easily written:
As I’ve said repeatedly, rage is good. This country was founded on it, and if it doesn’t find its inner Thomas Payne soon, it’s going to kiss 2 centuries and change of slavery, Jim Crow and self-government goodbye.
But, like, who was Jim Crow?
Sam_Stone:
For anyone curious, Manifest Destiny was the belief in the innate superiority of white American settlers, and that their destiny was to occupy and control all of America from coast to coast, at a time when much of the west was still ‘Indian territory’. it was big in the early to mid 1850’s, and used to justify all sorts of shitty actions against the ‘savages’ that occupied the land.
It also sounded better in the original German, Lebensraum .
It the go to spice for fava beans, doesn’t clash with the Chianti.
CMC fnord!
enipla
February 15, 2020, 1:45pm
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asahi - I’ve always pretty much agreed with you. A little shrill at times. But really, shrill ain’t enough at this point.
And what we a looking at is ‘Dumb shit destiny’. Bunch of morons are leading a bunch of morons. The outcome is… predictable.
That’s about the nicest way I can put it.
That joke would work better if the term “manifest destiny” hadn’t been coined some fifty-five years earlier than “Lebensraum.”
True, but it begs the question* ‘Do they even know that much history?’
CMC fnord!
A court ruled it cannot compel Don McGahn to testify over potential obstruction of justice related to Mueller case. 2-1 decision on ideological lines.
JohnT
July 15, 2021, 10:22am
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Kremlin papers confirm that Putin actively supported Trump in 2016 by ordering the three Russian spy agencies to support him at all costs in January, 2016:
system
July 15, 2021, 10:22am
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