I, for one, am open to the interpretation that he was just being a humorless asshole trying to make a joke. With predictable results.
I think he also really believes that millions of illegal voters lost him the popular vote. And that he is a canny operator, who exploited the Russians for easy loans, and it is he that controls them. Maybe other people think the Russians were laundering money, but why should he care? He was just giving them the Merv Griffin reach-around.
Google “Trump Merv Griffin” for more than you will ever want to know. Boiled down, an old story about Merv Griffin doing a real estate/hotel(?) deal with Trump that didn’t work out so well. One story line is that Trump gave Merv a jolly good rogering, financially speaking. Shots were fired, lawyers, hired.
Further stories have the two of them publicly arguing who played top, and who bottom. Essentially, two men arguing about who was the smarter crook. Inspiring.
Mueller has an embarassment of riches to work with. Looks like Michael Flynn and his son are next to be indicted.:
*"Flynn’s son, Michael G. Flynn, who worked closely with his father, accompanied him during the campaign and briefly worked on the presidential transition, could be indicted separately or at the same time as his father, according to three sources familiar with the investigation.
If the elder Flynn is willing to cooperate with investigators in order to help his son, two of the sources said, it could also change his own fate, potentially limiting any legal consequences."*
There is no rational explanation for all of this smoke that does not include a fire.
Holy shit. I’m torn about this. On the one hand, threatening someone’s child in order to get them to cooperate is a typical villain move.
On the other hand, if you’re threatening the child with legal consequences for the crimes that the parent got them to commit, the parent doesn’t get to complain, nor does the child, so I guess it’s no longer a villain move.
And if you get your kid to commit a crime, and you refuse to cooperate even though that sends your kid to jail, you win a Worst Dad of the Decade award.
I’m not torn at all. He might be Flynn’s child, but he’s not a child. He’s a grown man, and if he committed a crime then he’s fair game.
Not to mention that this is the same guy who went on social media hours after shots were fired to claim that the fake Pizzagate story about Hillary Clinton still hadn’t been proven false.
You know you’re an asshole when your social media lies are too obvious even for the Trump administration.
Which shitgibbons are you worried about offending? Ryan’s troop of trained shitgibbons in the House?
And this is a big Gotcha because … ?
The House shitgibbons can impeach Trump for any crime, proved or not, or on a whim. It’s no surprise that many sentient Americans hope for this.
I hope at least some Democratic Congresscritters come to Trump’s defense if the shitgibbons try to impeach him. His incompetence is all that protects us from a disastrous Ryan-Pence Administration.
Oh, don’t lose any sleep. Flynn Jr. is a demonstrably horrible human sack of garbage. In addition to being involved in all of the activities of his father, he was one of the chief architects of the pizzagate nonsense.
Agree with mhendo, not torn at all. The “kid” is an adult, made his own choices and is subject to the same laws and consequences as anyone else.
If the two Flynns were unrelated, the same rules would apply: If Flynn has got something that may be helpful to the investigation, he may receive some consideration that he might not otherwise enjoy. If that happens to include leniency to his child, then that might be a desired outcome Flynn wants – but it’s unrelated to Mueller’s task, which includes making deals that elicit testimony he needs.
It’s no different than persons unrelated to one another when subjected to an investigation. Some will enjoy better treatment because they stepped forward first.
You’ve probably already noticed, the rotten apples in this investigation (Trump Jr., Flynn Jr. and Manafort Jr.) don’t fall far from the diseased trees.
No sympathy for Flynn or his offspring. Nobody forced a former general, who later sat on the NSC, to advocate actually locking up a political opponent. Sorry but when he went there, he asked for this. No sympathy at all.
Not to mention that the “kid” is in his own right the infamous “Pizzagate” white supremacist. He is not some well-meaning innocent who got in trouble merely through a filial desire to be helpful to his dad. He’s been cheerfully neck-deep in this shit swamp since day 1.
Yeah, I guess “torn” is putting it strongly. I have this very gut reaction to telling someone, “If you don’t cooperate, I’ll make sure your child suffers.” And Mueller appears to be doing exactly that. So my gut says, Jesus Christ, dude.
But it couldn’t happen to a nicer family, literally, since a nicer family wouldn’t have engaged in these sort of bullshit shenanigans. And my mind recognizes that.
I think what Mueller’s saying is more akin to, “Help me and I’ll make sure your child doesn’t suffer.”
Mueller wouldn’t be persecuting Flynn Jr unfairly if he charged him with actual criminal charges for his actual criminal activity. If Mueller were to let Flynn Jr off, then he would be doing the Flynn Family a massive and otherwise undeserved favor. There is no reason or ethical obligation on Mueller’s part to let Flynn Jr go scott free just because he was arrested in conjunction with his father’s arrest. That is not “making the child suffer”. That is the child getting exactly what he deserves.
If Mueller were to plant evidence or make something up, and threaten Flynn Jr with that in order to get Senior’s cooperation - that would be more akin to your construction, Dorkness.