Mueller fought release of Comey memos to prevent Trump and others from changing stories
Full transcript here.
Mueller fought release of Comey memos to prevent Trump and others from changing stories
Full transcript here.
Oh, some of the base have believed for years the Obama had something to do with 9/11.
Watch this clip from the Daily Show. The guy at 3:30 wants to know why Obama was missing in action on 9/11 and not in the Oval Office.
Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse - Conspiracy Theories Thrive at a Trump Rally: The Daily Show
Some of these people are “morans”. Obama’s a Muslim because of jewelry, Hillary body doubles,…
Wow. You have to wonder ‘what if’----if Trump hadn’t had the opportunity to change his story, would he have said (and done) things that would have led Mueller to be much more forthright in his assessment of Trump’s obstructive activities? Might he have said flat out that he’d have recommended indictment if not for that Department of Justice guideline?
Mueller fought release of Comey memos to prevent Trump and others from changing stories
Full transcript here.
I’m one of the few people who, to some degree, sympathizes with Comey’s behavior, in the sense that I understand a lot of people in his position would have been tempted to do what he did. He was faced with hyper-partisanship and figured that releasing the infamous letter to Congress would cover his ass post-election. And I get why he released the memos after being fired - again to present his side of the story.
But none of that can immunize him from charges of being a showboat and a chickenshit. I think James Comey is a decent guy who was overwhelmed by the politicization of the Bureau, but I can see why both Democrat and Republican partisans despise him.
Wow. You have to wonder ‘what if’----if Trump hadn’t had the opportunity to change his story, would he have said (and done) things that would have led Mueller to be much more forthright in his assessment of Trump’s obstructive activities? Might he have said flat out that he’d have recommended indictment if not for that Department of Justice guideline?
No…because Mueller did not say that for lack of evidence; He didn’t say it because of the principle that to accuse someone of a crime when they don’t have their day in Court to defend themselves is not fair, as he explained in the Introduction to Volume II of the report.
Saying flat out that he’d have recommended indictment if not for the DOJ guideline is essentially accusing the President of a crime (which is why Barr’s claim [that Mueller assured him that it was not the case that but for the DOJ guideline he would have recommended indictment] is completely meaningless. It is a question Mueller would have never answered in the affirmative no matter what the evidence.
No…because Mueller did not say that for lack of evidence; He didn’t say it because of the principle that to accuse someone of a crime when they don’t have their day in Court to defend themselves is not fair, as he explained in the Introduction to Volume II of the report.
Saying flat out that he’d have recommended indictment if not for the DOJ guideline is essentially accusing the President of a crime.
Yes to all that, but Mueller could still have been more straightforward in making statements about the amount and seriousness of the evidence of wrongdoing that had been uncovered. As it was he was fairly reticent in discussing the body of evidence.
It’s a hypothetical, of course: if Trump didn’t realize how much the Mueller team knew about Comey’s contemporaneous memorializing of their interactions (due to Comey’s memos being, hypothetically, not made public), what b.s. claims might Trump have tried to make? How much deeper a hole might he have dug for himself?
Trump exerts Executive Privilege over Mueller Report and all supporting documents and evidence:
He might as well have just said “Yeah; I did it. What are y’all gonna do about it?”
ETA: The headlines should all read “Trump Announces Guilt With Executive Privilege Claim”.
“The guy that I appointed says that the investigation into me proves I am totally innocent, but Congress can’t see the report, you’ll just have to trust him.”
And there are people who will buy this.
Trump exerts Executive Privilege over Mueller Report and all supporting documents and evidence:
So now we arrest Barr, right?
So now we arrest Barr, right?
as numerous stories have pointed out, Congress is empowered to do that. The House can do it all on its own – no need to convince a Republican Senate about it.
“I lost a billion dollars by employing various tax-avoidance schemes, but Congress can’t see my tax files because reasons. And I’ll get my appointed man to interfere with the IRS to stop you. NO OBSTRUCTION!”
ETA: Congress should find Mnuchin in contempt as well, and throw his ass in jail.
“I lost a billion dollars by employing various tax-avoidance schemes, but Congress can’t see my tax files because reasons. And I’ll get my appointed man to interfere with the IRS to stop you. NO OBSTRUCTION!”
ETA: Congress should find Mnuchin in contempt as well, and throw his ass in jail.
Makes me wonder if that lost billion is siting in a bank on some island somewhere…
The letter had more than 720 signers as of Tuesday evening.
By early Tuesday evening, more than 720 former federal prosecutors who worked in Democratic and Republican administrations had signed a letter asserting that President Trump would have been charged with obstructing justice based on special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings — if Trump were not the president…
First day, something like 200, thereabouts. Now, 720. Imagine my surprise when I heard that my team of radical lefty hippies had taken over the FBI and Justice! Just imagine my surprise!
Not even close, try again…
Impeachment is Congress’s most famous, yet rarely exercised, power over wayward presidents and other federal officers. But as Trump-administration officials continue to defy House subpoenas related to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, Democrats in control of the chamber could turn to an even blunter weapon in their arsenal: arrest.
Courts have recognized that the House and Senate each have the authority to enforce their orders by imprisoning those who violate them—literally. They can direct their respective sergeant at arms to arrest officials they’ve found to be in contempt and bring them to the Capitol for trial and, potentially, jail. Congress hasn’t invoked what’s known as the “power of inherent contempt” in nearly a century, but the escalating clash between two co-equal branches of government has Democrats talking about moves previously deemed unthinkable.
“Its day in the sun is coming,” Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland told me by phone on Tuesday. Raskin, a second-term Democrat and former constitutional-law professor, sits on the House Judiciary Committee, which on Wednesday planned to debate and vote on a resolution finding Attorney General William Barr in contempt for his refusal to give Congress the full, unredacted Mueller report. As lawmakers met to consider the move, the White House carried out its threat to assert executive privilege over the document.
Once the Judiciary Committee approves the contempt resolution, as expected, it goes to the full House, where it would likely clear on a party-line vote with the backing of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who announced on Wednesday morning that she supports holding Barr in contempt. From there, Democrats would have three options to force Barr’s hand: They could refer the matter to the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., who would decide whether to launch a criminal prosecution of his own boss, the attorney general. Democrats could turn to the courts to enforce the subpoena. Or they could take matters into their own hands and call their sergeant at arms. Raskin himself brought up the arrest option when I asked him how far this confrontation could go, even as he acknowledged that not many members of the House were aware of that particular congressional power, much less supported its use.
The debate over how congressional Democrats intend to defend their constitutional prerogative to oversee the executive branch extends beyond Barr; Donald Trump’s administration is challenging the House’s authority across a range of areas, from the Ways and Means Committee’s bid to get the president’s tax returns from the IRS to the Judiciary Committee’s request to hear from both Mueller and one of his key witnesses, former White House Counsel Don McGahn.
“This is not some peripheral schoolyard skirmish,” Raskin said. “This goes right to the heart of our ability to do our work as Congress of the United States.”
Still, Democrats have been reluctant to launch impeachment proceedings against Trump for fear that they would backfire politically. Would they really send the House’s sergeant at arms down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Department of Justice with instructions to haul the nation’s chief law-enforcement officer to the Capitol, in handcuffs if necessary? House Republicans made no such effort after they voted to hold then–Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt in 2012 over his refusal to turn over documents connected to the “Fast and the Furious” probe.
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The rest of the article is an interview with Jamie Raskin.
Do the Dems have the guts to do this? Will it backfire? If they do it, will it have any benefit or will it amount to an empty, theatrical gesture?
It might cause Mitch McConnell to have a stroke, so there’s that.
The Rarely Used Congressional Power That Could Force William Barr’s Hand
It hasn’t been done in nearly a century, but House Democrats could arrest the attorney general after they find him in contempt.
The rest of the article is an interview with Jamie Raskin.Do the Dems have the guts to do this? Will it backfire? If they do it, will it have any benefit or will it amount to an empty, theatrical gesture?
It might cause Mitch McConnell to have a stroke, so there’s that.
IMHO: there is 0.0% chance of Barr being arrested. He’ll be cited for contempt and then the Dems will move on to another skirmish.
If the House tried that, all hell would break loose.
first day, something like 200, thereabouts. Now, 720. Imagine my surprise when i heard that my team of radical lefty hippies had taken over the fbi and justice! Just imagine my surprise!
Not even close, try again…
#720angrydemocrats!!!
IMHO: there is 0.0% chance of Barr being arrested. He’ll be cited for contempt and then the Dems will move on to another skirmish.
I’m having a hard time dredging up much disagreement with this; the Dems look slow and weak right now. They should have had this planned out & staged 12 or 13 moves in advance and been ready to fucking hustle some shit through to keep this in the public eye. Escalate fast and in the direction they intend and reach the proper conclusion as fast as fucking possible, IMO. ETA: The troops (the general public) needs to see a strong Dem “win” soon or things could blow up in the other direction again. Gotta deflate any potential momentum eh.
If the House tried that, all hell would break loose.
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”
It is past tempting.