Jesus Fucking Christ, but you people can really be egotistical assholes when you want to be! (And I generally find the lot of you pretty cool.) So what if the OP still lives at home? That automatically makes him immature, shiftless and lazy?
:rolleyes:
Not to hijack the (slightly undeserved) pile-on here - but surely this can’t be right? Everyone in a house where drugs are found could be jailed? Surely not. Say I’m a convicted drug addict and am released/given community sentence or whatever and end up at my 87 year old grandmother’s house. If I carry on using, and the police come and find drugs in the house, SHE gets whipped off to jail?
It is an easy strawman to use for persecuting someone for something.
Let’s start from the very beginning, shall we?
OPs Title:
A whole new reason to move out ASAP
So this is just one situation of many.
Oh, suck it the fuck up, you big goddamned baby. The issue isn’t that you’re living at home- some of my nicest, most hardworking coworkers are doing just that, and I wouldn’t dream of giving them a hard time about it. The reason why so many people are telling you to grow the fuck up is because you’re a freeloader. There’s no reason at all why you can’t move out right this very moment, other than you don’t want to put yourself out and work like a normal college graduate. Instead you want to play teenager for a while longer- “well, I could look for a job, but I want to be in this play that I have to shell out money to participate in.” “Well, I could move out but I want to actually start on my career before going out into the big bad world.” “Well, I really, really enjoy being a crossing guard and a piano teacher and a tutor, and why should I extend myself further when mommy will let me stay at home and be a kid for a while longer.” “I hate my coworkers, I hate my managers, I hate the parents of my clients, I bitch endlessly about mundane crap having to do with my life, but I’m going to apply to be a manager because…” well, actually, I have no fucking clue why. So we can suffer along with you in your newfound power? Newsflash, einstein- a LOT of people take risks every day, and become self-sufficient adults, and they don’t need to be in a high-paying career-oriented job to do it. They do it because there comes a time when it’s downright embarassing to have mommy supporting you, ESPECIALLY if you have three jobs. You’re a freeloader and we make fun of you because you run around spending your money on petty bullshit rather than on, say, contributing to your mom’s bills so she won’t HAVE to rely on her boyfriend.
You haven’t been paying rent. WTF have you been doing with your money? Why haven’t you been saving while working tirelessly at these three highly important jobs? How many months’ rent/utilities/etc could you have paid with the money you spent on the play? How much time did you waste instead of looking for a full time job?
It’s not a strawman. You’re a whiny-ass bitch whose precious situation is about to be taken away, and instead of doing what you can to support your mom, you’re crying that she’s “dropped the ball.” Fucking punk. Go through some real stress and then we’ll talk.
I think I got my book title!
From what I’ve found, possibly. (Because she’s the homeowner.) She might even, in Kansas face losing her house. I doubt a conviction would stick in the long run, but she might have to defend herself against serious charges, because she owned the house, and it could be argued that she knew what was going on. Especially if it’s methamphetamine, she could be in big trouble if she lived in Kansas. They do not go lightly at all on people who own houses where meth is processed/sold.
Meth is a big problem in this state. Which is why I sympathize with the OP, meth addicts are nothing to jest about, and something to fear. Just the words “meth addict” send cold chills down my spine, because you never know just what they might do. Whether or not he’s had an “easy ride” in some people’s minds, having a meth addict move into your house is no laughing matter.
Kansas Drug Threat Assessment Some of the claims in this make me :dubious: at the hysteria/paranoia against “Mexicans”.
The DEA’s page about Kansas.
The KBI’s site.
Kansas statutes.
Anti-meth site.
I wonder how many people taking Incubus to task for living with his mom have ever tried to find housing in California on a college student’s income.
But he’s not a college student any longer. He’s a college graduate who seems to be putting off getting a real job for some reason or another. That’s different.
I lived at home after college before I moved to NYC and for a year after I moved back from NYC before I moved to Ohio to live with my husband (got all that?). I think it’s great for parents to offer a place to their kids to live even as adults. But there’s a difference between living with your parents so that you can still remain a kid and live a carefree life, and living with your parents as a stopgap. I lived with my parents both times as a stopgap - I wanted out of there as soon as I possibly could because I didn’t want to be dependent on them. I certainly didn’t feel like they owed me to let me live with them, and I appreciated it, but I think it made for a much healthier relationship when we WEREN’T living in the same house.
Incubus, get out on your own. I think you’ll find that you’re much happier and you’ll feel more independent. And then these kinds of issues won’t bother you anymore.
E.
Point in fact, with a shout out to Elza, he hasn’t been a college student since December. He chose to not get a full-time job at that point, because he wanted to Be In A Play. A play that not only took time from looking for a FT job, but also cost money. He has chosen since then to remain in part-time jobs that by all accounts he hates, because he wants to Start His Life In His Career.
I really don’t think anyone’s taking him to task for living with his mom. They’re taking him to task for not contributing at all monetarily and bitching about his mom’s housing choices. Heck, when my sister moved in with my parents after college, they charged her rent. Yes, they gave her all the money back on her wedding day, but she still had to pay for her own upkeep for that ~year.
Incubus has said more than once that he can find housing anytime in his price range, so it appears the only thing keeping him home is his own warped ideas of how he should be living.
And I’ve lived in Boston, Western MA, and Atlanta on an actual student’s income. CA can’t be that much worse for someone who has three jobs.
Sure, you know I have. Hell, you’ve kicked it in my apartment. 
And I’ve also kicked it in your parent’s garage. And I gave you minimal shit about it. You know why? The difference between you and Incubus is you own the fact that you live at home. You don’t make apologies and you don’t talk about your “big plans” to move out incessantly. You also don’t have the sheer, unmitigated gall to bitch and moan about the hand that feeds you.
Incubus’s threads are like really bad car accidents for me (of which I’m no stranger). I don’t wanna look because I know it can’t possibly be good and it’ll just piss me off but I just can’t help myself.
Basically, what bobkitty said. There’s always an excuse with you, Incubus. If you don’t want to move out, fine. But cut out the “I really, REALLY wanna move out, right after I…” bullshit. It’s not working anymore, we’ve all heard it before from you. Multiple times.
Well, since you asked.
I lived on my own in the Bay Area while I went to college, and didn’t take a dime from my parents or anyone else. I didn’t graduate until I was 25, but I did it.
And again, the the fact he lives with his mother is not the only issue. It’s that he keeps saying he wants to move out, but never does. He keeps saying that he wants to start a career, but today is his first Job Fair. He contributes nothing to the rent or household expenses, even though he has three jobs.
What did you do for a living? I’d love to know. I applied for financial aid in college, got turned down. Most of the money I earned went toward paying for school. I am constantly on the lookout for a better job. How much was rent? What year did you go to college?
Lezlers, I don’t really see anything in the OP that I’d call “bitching and moaning at the hand that feeds him.” But, I haven’t read all his Pit threads, so maybe I’m missing the full context. On the basis of this thread alone, I think he’s getting a lot more guff than the OP deserves.
Miller - if this was the only OP on the subject, I’m pretty sure that he wouldn’t be getting the guff. However, at some point people quit being interesting, fun posters, who happen to live with the parents, in instead become annoying attention whores that bitch about everything under the flippin’ sun, including dog shit for the love of Pete (as if the dog had a choice).
Yes, I know reading threads is optional, but when one poster has 4 of 5 stupid whingy threads on the front page of the pit, all about the same stupid bullshit, it gets a bit grating, if ya know what I mean.
Personally, I try not to read the stupid things, but it seems much, much worse now, expecially since the last time I noticed, he also had two or three lame threads on the front page of MPSIMS.
Really, he needs to either get a life, or quit posting about how he doesn’t have one.
It’s gotten old, fast.
What Alice said.
By “bitching and moaning about the hand that feeds him” I was referring to the pile of pit threads he’s started bitching about various aspects of his life, amongst those, the ones he’s started complaining about his mother and his overall living situation.
I went to school in Berkeley. Even for California, Berkeley is expensive.
I payed $450 a month for my housing, which is a bit more then half of what I payed for an apartment in the DFW area, where housing is cheap.
The trick is to get roommates (more then 1, if necessary).
Hey, Incubus…why aren’t you in here telling everyone ELSE they should stop reading your stuff if they don’t like it? Folks in here are ripping you new assholes on flesh you haven’t even GROWN yet, but I’m the only one who got a personal invitation to put you on ignore? (Which I haven’t.)
I’m feelin’ spacial.
(1) Follow prior suggestions to relocate valuables (which includes credit cards, SSN, spare car keys, etc.) so you don’t have to get a lock. Safeguarding valuables is as much for her benefit as yours, as it keeps temptation away.
(2) Be nice. Get to know her. Even if you don’t want to, there are several reasons for this, besides common humanity and good manners. One is general education for yourself. Two is to study the “enemy.” Recognize their spirit and their signs. Like some addicts I’ve known, when they start talking all kinds of nice positive stuff, how they want to turn everything around, and do all kinds of good stuff for everyone, that’s when they’re about to go off the deep end / get in trouble / get arrested.
What goes around comes around, so get ready to duck. It could come from any direction.
Maybe that job fair you’re going to will include openings for drug rehab counselor?
I could care less what **Incubus **does in his life. I don’t even care so much about what he bitches about (although I do disagree with a good deal of what he says and how he seems to think). So I couldn’t figure out what it was that was bothering me about the threads I kept seeing popping up.
Roland Deschain was one of the first posters to really irritate me. You’d open a forum and there’d be 5 threads started by him. But the big thing was, he very rarely participated outside his own threads. If he did, it was in an IMHO thread where he got to (not so subtly) just keep talking about himself and his weird life.
Incubus, to a large degree, does the same thing. Almost every time I see his name, it’s in a thread he started, and it’s almost always a complaint about something, and it’s very nearly always about him. I have no problem with people sharing their stories on the board; I am after all free to ignore them as I see fit. But it just drives me nuts when people only use this board to talk about themselves and show little interest in actually being a participating member in anything else. That’s when it really starts to feel like someone is using the board as their own personal dumpin ground, rather than as a community.