Actual forums user "RedFury" does not like Jews

[BigT]

So Redfury got pitted for telling monstro that it’s kinda stupid to try to discuss Israel/antisemitism here? Yeah, it’s kinda stupid because it’s in the OP, but it’s otherwise fine.

And while I don’t think FinnAgain is a horrible person, I did find his posts in that thread to be quite infuriating. He seemed to be determined to subvert the OP’s wish to discuss the situation rationally, instead arguing with anger and disdain because the OP didn’t agree with him.

And that is a pattern I’ve seen from him, and I wish he would stop. I’m pretty sure he’s the reason why Israel cannot be rationally discussed around here.

ETA: And to preempt you guys: yes, it’s almost as bad as my moralizing shit.

[leander]

And that is a pattern I’ve seen from him, and I wish he would stop. I’m pretty sure he’s the reason why Israel cannot be rationally discussed around here.

Bingo

[FinnAgain]

You’re the type of idiot who clings so fiercely to a position of military stupidity that if you’re proven wrong, all you can do is flip out and rant about how someone else is being ever-so-mean to you… but somehow you can’t bring yourself to show how they’re wrong about anything, at all. “I’m being stupid and wrong and ignorant and you proved that by attacking my argument, and I can’t rebut what you’ve said, so I’ll just allege that you’re rabid. Yah, that’s the ticket!”

Of course, as you’re mildly retarded, it probably doesn’t cross your mind that you’re admitting that you can’t even hold your own in a debate with someone who you, yourself, consider to be irrational.

Yep leander, called it.
Still nothing you can point out that I’m wrong about, just your moaning and whining and impotent personal attacks. Come back when you’re not an intellectual cripple and you can actually show how I’m wrong about something, you idiot.

Oh, and:

@BigT

And while I don’t think FinnAgain is a horrible person, I did find his posts in that thread to be quite infuriating. He seemed to be determined to subvert the OP’s wish to discuss the situation rationally, instead arguing with anger and disdain because the OP didn’t agree with him.

…are you retarded?
The OP was the one who was talking about her being “ANGRY” and how disagreeing with her that something was a valid analogy was pissing her off. Do you even understand what “rationally” means?
The only “anger” I showed was when monstro started making shit up and pretending I’d said it.

@BigT

I’m pretty sure he’s the reason why Israel cannot be rationally discussed around here.

Funny, the people who discuss the situation honestly and have facts at their disposal never have a problem. I wonder why that is? Must just be a coincidence.

And the people who habitually lie and/or post from a position of ignorance, they moan about how very unfair I’m being. The reason Israel “cannot be rationally discussed around here” is probably due to all that lying and willful ignorance, and not me pointing it out.
Go figure, eh, eh?

[leander]

Guys, just do a search on **FinnAgain **and read his own posts. He recently had a 30+ page thread in the Pit. !!!

Seriously, he makes it really easy for anyone to form an opinion with his own craziness. It’s not hard to make a judgment based on his own crazy crazy posts.

[FinnAgain]

You’re the type of idiot who clings so fiercely to a position of military stupidity that if you’re proven wrong, all you can do is flip out and rant about how someone else is being ever-so-mean to you… but somehow you can’t bring yourself to show how they’re wrong about anything, at all. “I’m being stupid and wrong and ignorant and you proved that by attacking my argument, and I can’t rebut what you’ve said, so I’ll just allege that you’re rabid. Yah, that’s the ticket!”

Of course, as you’re mildly retarded, it probably doesn’t cross your mind that you’re admitting that you can’t even hold your own in a debate with someone who you, yourself, consider to be irrational.

Yep leander, called it.
Still nothing you can point out that I’m wrong about, just your moaning and whining and impotent personal attacks. Come back when you’re not an intellectual cripple and you can actually show how I’m wrong about something, you idiot.

+1

Any time now, you intellectual cripple.

[42fish]

@Really_Not_All_That_Bright

You all smell like fish.

That would be Red Ruffy.

(Disclaimer: I know there’s an orange ruffy, I have no idead if there’s actually a red ruffy. On the other hand, I don’t give a rat’s ass.)

[leander]

@FinnAgain

+1

Any time now, you intellectual cripple.

You are really this stupid?

[Capitaine_Zombie]

@leander

You are really this stupid?

Christ, can you stop quoting that troll? I put him on ignore for a reason.

[elucidator]

A post from Finn is kind of like sunrise, if the Earth were orbiting a black hole.

[Shot_From_Guns]

I’m a little bit disappointed that nobody has the title “Actual Forums User” yet.

@Really_Not_All_That_Bright

You all smell like fish.

By moving water rapidly over sensory pads after drawing it in through our nares by the action of cilia, muscle movement, or swimming?

@elucidator

A post from Finn is kind of like sunrise, if the Earth were orbiting a black hole.

That’s a beautiful analogy.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

You make me feel…

You make me feel…

You make me feel like an actual forums user.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@Shot_From_Guns

By moving water rapidly over sensory pads after drawing it in through our nares by the action of cilia, muscle movement, or swimming?

By accident, I hope.

[FinnAgain]

You’re the type of idiot who clings so fiercely to a position of military stupidity that if you’re proven wrong, all you can do is flip out and rant about how someone else is being ever-so-mean to you… but somehow you can’t bring yourself to show how they’re wrong about anything, at all. “I’m being stupid and wrong and ignorant and you proved that by attacking my argument, and I can’t rebut what you’ve said, so I’ll just allege that you’re rabid. Yah, that’s the ticket!”

Of course, as you’re mildly retarded, it probably doesn’t cross your mind that you’re admitting that you can’t even hold your own in a debate with someone who you, yourself, consider to be irrational.
Yep leander, called it.

Still nothing you can point out that I’m wrong about, just your moaning and whining and impotent personal attacks. Come back when you’re not an intellectual cripple and you can actually show how I’m wrong about something, you idiot.

Not that your hysterical shrieking “crazy crazy crazy!!!” isn’t some bang up reasoning, but any time now if you can show anything that I’ve actually been wrong about.

Go for it.

[RedFury]

@BigT

So Redfury got pitted for telling monstro that it’s kinda stupid to try to discuss Israel/antisemitism here? Yeah, it’s kinda stupid because it’s in the OP, but it’s otherwise fine.

Indeed, it ought to be.

*And while I don’t think FinnAgain is a horrible person, I did find his posts in that thread to be quite infuriating. He seemed to be determined to subvert the OP’s wish to discuss the situation rationally, instead arguing with anger and disdain because the OP didn’t agree with him.

Not that I am claiming psychic abilities for none are needed, but from the post that got me Pitted:

That said, I’d think you’d know better than to bring this as a topic to GD what with all the years you’ve been here: page after page of Impenetrable Walls Of Text© defending all that’s Right with Israel.

Apparently, you’ve already read through the thread. I’d invite others to do the same in order to ascertain the validity of my prediction. And while the whole “Jew-hater/anti-Semite” spiel rolls like water off a duck’s back by now, I must admit I wasn’t quite prepared for this particular kind of batshit: A friend of mine is convinced you’re an anti-Semite who either had a Jewish girl laugh at him when she saw how small his penis was… Not sure what to make of random Internet strangers apparently discussing the size of my junk with other “friends.” Is this some sort of new cybersex fad I’m unaware of? Titillating as some appear to find the topic, all I’m prepared to say is that Dirty Harry is indeed, kosher. 'suppose that’ll have them masturbating like motherfuckers – which in turn should keep them from reproducing.

Alas, all is well that ends well.

And that is a pattern I’ve seen from him, and I wish he would stop. I’m pretty sure he’s the reason why Israel cannot be rationally discussed around here.

Pretty much, yeah. Appears to be a full time job for the dipshit.

@Capitaine_Zombie

Christ, can you stop quoting that troll? I put him on ignore for a reason.

Meh. I have him on “scroll” and you should see the size of the guns on my index fingers – yep, both. I take turns.

@Shot_From_Guns

I’m a little bit disappointed that nobody has the title “Actual Forums User” yet.

No need to be for I have and as always Frothy is on the case:

@FinnAgain

*Of course, Red really is a racist even though the OP for this thread is awful.
And unless I miss my guess, this is the second time Red has taken a personalized title due to someone objecting to the fact that he’s a racist. It’s almost as if he takes some sort of pleasure out of trying to upset people who don’t like anti-Semitism, and then wears it as a badge of honor that he got some good ol’ Jew baiting done.

Curiouser and curiouser.*

Nope. Fuckin’ pathetic is more like it.

Make sure you put that in my dossier. Not that you need reminding for it’s your living but…

There. Fed. Ought to be good for at least two to three ten-line scrolls.

[Capitaine_Zombie]

@RedFury

Meh. I have him on “scroll” and you should see the size of the guns on my index fingers – yep, both. I take turns.

That’s because you got a short penis.

[elucidator]

Uh, Red? Minor point, a quibble, really, but that’s the troule with quibbles.

Your quote there about someone dissing your Hammer of Thor sorta kinda leaves the impression that it was the genial, warm and delightful Finn who made that assertion. But it wasn’t.

Tsk, tsk. OK, maybe just the one “tsk”.

[Ibn_Warraq]

@RedFury

A friend of mine is convinced you’re an anti-Semite who either had a Jewish girl laugh at him when she saw how small his penis was… Not sure what to make of random Internet strangers apparently discussing the size of my junk with other “friends.” Is this some sort of new cybersex fad I’m unaware of?

Surprised you took it so personally.

I’m certainly more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re not an anti-Semite.

I was just talking with a friend and she said anyone who wildly accused so many American officials of “dual loyalty” because they had last names that sounded Jewish was an obvious anti-Semite and then she suggested why they might be anti-Semitic.

I assume that you’re simply a passionate supporter of the Palestinians and their cause.

Anyway, if you don’t mind, why did you list George Tenet as being an American official you suspected of “dual loyalty” since he’s a Greek American?

Were you concerned that he might be tipping off the Greek government.

Also, what was Michael Chertoff doing on the list? I’m pretty sure he’s never even visited Israel.

What has he done which would make you suspect his loyalty more than that of say Hillary Clinton or Karl Rove?
I’m sure for example

[FinnAgain]

@RedFury

That said, I’d think you’d know better than to bring this as a topic to GD what with all the years you’ve been here: page after page of Impenetrable Walls Of Text© defending all that’s Right with Israel.

Standard Red, lying freely. Let me guess, you’re drunk? Again.
I know you’re just a troll, but in case those reading along might not know how easily you troll, often claiming that I never criticize Israel in threads right after I’ve posted, criticizing something about Israel, this is what I actually think about what’s “Right with Israel”.
(interesting bit about you admitting you’re too stupid to comprehend what I write because, gorsh, it’s got so many words!)

@FinnAgain

The US should, certainly, make it clear that we’ll cut off the spigot if there is any new construction of the settlements, at all.

@FinnAgain

I’m well aware that there are numerous legitimate grievances among the Palestinian people, among but not limited to those in the West Bank and Gaza.

There are legitimate concerns about racism and discrimination even for Arabs in Israel, but the courts have consistently come down against such actions. There are problems for those Palestinians who live in refugee camps in other countries, many of which have adopted laws designed to keep them living in the camps, and even made it illegal for them to find work outside of the camps. Other nations, like Lebanon, have a history of treating them very roughly and just a couple years ago, the Lebanese army shelled the hell out of refugee camp. IIRC they weren’t using surgical strikes either. Palestinians in the West Bank do not have freedom of movement even within the West Bank itself. Many have family/friends in Jordan but are unable to visit them most of the time due to the Jordanian border policies. There are valid demands that they have increased water rights, that Gazans have increased fishing rights. Fatah is corrupt and Hamas are theocratic thuggish genocidal lunatics. Much of the aid/money which is sent never get into the hands of the people. Unemployment is massive and they are unable to import/export freely. Ironically as well, one of their main trading partners has always been Israel, and due to security restrictions they are unable to travel and work in Israel without great difficulty and delay. Even ambulances have trouble traveling freely, largely due to the fact that there is a history of ambulances being used to smuggle weapons/bombs/terrorists.

Etc, etc, etc. That’s just a smattering off the top of my head.

Of course they have valid demands. They want a sovereign state with viable agricultural and water rights, with open borders so that they can travel to see family in Jordan or Egypt, Israel or wherever, or simply vacation. They want open airspace and a national airline. They want the ability to send fishing boats as deep into international waters as they see fit. They want a decent standard of living and a viable economy. They want the ability to visit their holy sites and don’t want security checkpoints on their land or, for that matter, to have to be treated as possible enemy combatants at every checkpoint in Israel proper. They want to have sovereign control and ownership over the land they are living on now. Which, of course, has legal but not necessarily pragmatic problems. For roughly 400 years, the vast majority of land in the region was Miri or waste land, that is, land which could not be privately owned and which tenants could only ‘rent’ by continuously cultivating it. This system was kept by both the British and Jordanians when they were the sovereign powers in control of the land. So legal claims to property rights fall short, but it is obvious that a pragmatic solution must be reached. I have gone on record, numerous times in the last week or two unless I miss my guess, as stating that Clinton’s Bridging Proposal would be a very good goal to shoot for (with modifications in Final Status negotiations), as after land swaps and periods of increasingly scaled back Israeli control to guarantee a smooth transition, it gave (what would become) a sovereign PA roughly 97% of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. I’ve gone on record as saying that the US should apply its economic influence to attempt to get all settlement expansion stopped. I’ve gone on record as stating that there is a pragmatic necessity to provide funds Palestinians who were dispossessed, largely because any Palestinian territory itself must have viable social services as soon as possible, but also because it would be a good gesture to settle bad blood and the Final Status of the refugees. I believe that it would have to be negotiated because, as pointed out above many didn’t even own the land they were living on. A unilateral decision of how much they were owed would be silly, and most evenhanded folks recognize that. Israel no more gets to determine what the refugees should get than does Abbas or Haniyah, or the Saudis or whoever. But a negotiated settlement allows an agreed upon value to be set and paid rather than simply declared by fiat.
[…]
I want there to be a viable two state solution with peace security, prosperity and a high standard of living for both sides. And I want it ASAP.
[…]
I believe that the best way to marginalize Hamas is to have a sovereign West Bank which can demonstrate to them the ‘carrot’ of peaceful relations, and provide a glaring object lesson as to what path works, and what leads to misery and bloodshed for both nations. I believe that the sooner we get a viable two state solution, the sooner the citizens in Gaza will start slitting some Hamas throats. And the sooner there is a viable pair of states who can coexist in peace and prosperity, the revenue from tourism alone will help the Palestinians’ economic and social interests immensely.

You are a liar and a troll.

@RedFury

Nope.

Oh yah, in addition to you being a liar and a troll, you’re also a racist shit. As pointed out, you have gone on record accusing every person in the US government who you could recall whose named sounded Jewish, including one Orthodox Greek man, of being potential traitors. When challenged on what exactly the basis for your claims were, other than that you thought they were Jews, you never could answer but lied a lot and said that you had. Strangely enough, you never could quote where you’d identified your process of reasoning for ferreting out potential Traitor Jews other than that they were people in American politics, and you thought they were Jews.

Stupid fucking racist, how does it feel to know that not only is your hatred impotent, but no matter how much you hate, Jews will still be treated as full class American citizens and those who go into politics won’t be subjected to loyalty tests? Must really rankle, when you’re sober enough to notice, eh?

Don’t worry, I’m sure one day you’ll win the good fight and any Jew who dares enter politics will be properly screened for Jewish Treachery.

@RedFury

Ought to be good for at least two to three ten-line scrolls.

Almost as if you were trolling for a response.
What’re the odds?

[RedFury]

@elucidator

Uh, Red? Minor point, a quibble, really, but that’s the troule with quibbles.

Your quote there about someone dissing your Hammer of Thor sorta kinda leaves the impression that it was the genial, warm and delightful Finn who made that assertion. But it wasn’t.

Tsk, tsk. OK, maybe just the one “tsk”.

Say hey, 'luc. Not sure how or where you got said impression as it’s a direct link to the ah, erm…“thought-provoking discussion of my attributes in minute detail” post. Kids! Give them an inch…

That said, if it does appear that way, it’s certainly not meant to.

*::::Tsssssk!::::

::: ouch!:::*

Done.

[RedFury]

@Ibn_Warraq

Surprised you took it so personally.

I’m certainly more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re not an anti-Semite.

I was just talking with a friend and she said anyone who wildly accused so many American officials of “dual loyalty” because they had last names that sounded Jewish was an obvious anti-Semite and then she suggested why they might be anti-Semitic.

I assume that you’re simply a passionate supporter of the Palestinians and their cause.

Anyway, if you don’t mind, why did you list George Tenet as being an American official you suspected of “dual loyalty” since he’s a Greek American?

Were you concerned that he might be tipping off the Greek government.

Also, what was Michael Chertoff doing on the list? I’m pretty sure he’s never even visited Israel.

What has he done which would make you suspect his loyalty more than that of say Hillary Clinton or Karl Rove?
I’m sure for example

@FinnAgain

Standard Red, lying freely. Let me guess, you’re drunk? Again.
I know you’re just a troll, but in case those reading along might not know how easily you troll, often claiming that I never criticize Israel in threads right after I’ve posted, criticizing something about Israel, this is what I actually think about what’s “Right with Israel”.
(interesting bit about you admitting you’re too stupid to comprehend what I write because, gorsh, it’s got so many words!)

You are a liar and a troll.

Oh yah, in addition to you being a liar and a troll, you’re also a racist shit. As pointed out, you have gone on record accusing every person in the US government who you could recall whose named sounded Jewish, including one Orthodox Greek man, of being potential traitors. When challenged on what exactly the basis for your claims were, other than that you thought they were Jews, you never could answer but lied a lot and said that you had. Strangely enough, you never could quote where you’d identified your process of reasoning for ferreting out potential Traitor Jews other than that they were people in American politics, and you thought they were Jews.

Stupid fucking racist, how does it feel to know that not only is your hatred impotent, but no matter how much you hate, Jews will still be treated as full class American citizens and those who go into politics won’t be subjected to loyalty tests? Must really rankle, when you’re sober enough to notice, eh?

Don’t worry, I’m sure one day you’ll win the good fight and any Jew who dares enter politics will be properly screened for Jewish Treachery.

Almost as if you were trolling for a response.
What’re the odds?

Index guns getting a workout.

Many thanks.