Hi FinnAgain,
I don’t have a strong opinion on the Middle East, and haven’t much cared for the James Joyce I’ve read, but I find your SDMB writing informative, enjoyable, and painstakingly precise. You don’t seem like a cartoon or an unreasonable person.
Just wanted to say that.
Who? Me? I never log out.
How much do you charge?
Fair enough. I’m really confused about whom you *were *referring to, then, though.
People would notice if I weren’t at my desk. And a bathroom with multiple stalls shared by an entire floor is a lot less private than a single room with a locking door like one tends to find at coffeeshops.
Hmm, someone who can do a really convincing impersonation of Savonarola?
Free; time and motivation permitting.
Capitaine Zombie, I’ve noticed your handle a few times recently, but really have no idea about your beliefs or writing style. That’s not an insult. Perhaps I’ll pay more attention in the future.
(But that’s the end of my motivation for poster mini-reviews.)
Shit, you should go mention that in the outsourcing thread.
Wow.
Finnagain, do you have any idea how odd you come off in this thread?
The first thing I noticed is that you quoted your own post on page one 3 or 4 times on the first two pages, including quoting yourself and doing a +1 after it, showing us you actually agree with yourself.
I don’t know you or RedFury, and I haven’t read the thread in question. What I do know is that you sound on the wrong side of sane.
You are also capable of turning someone into an anti-semite. I believe you can turn a Jew into an anti-semite.
Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate it but despite the Tard Storm, I’m not really worried. The fact that, despite their nonsense, not one of the usual suspects can show how I’m wrong about anything, at all, shows what the substance of their rage iis.
Keep trolling SFG, don’t stop. Otherwise you might have to address whether or not what I’m saying is correct instead of just trolling. Can’t have that.
No, that’d be you being stupid.
I quoted my own words because it’s easier to re-post something that’s been ignored than to repeat it. The plus one, since you seem a bit too slow to figure it out, was showing that it was the same fucking thing that was already ignored, being posted one more time.
Let me guess, uppity negroes are also responsible for people who hate blacks, eh? Yeah, you’re a decent human being alright.
Look how stupid you are.
Capitaine Zombie
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FinnAgain
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In keeping with your trolling pattern, you’ve started lying about me before whining about how I point out that people are lying. Of course I never said that “the only reason someone would make fun of me” was anything. You made that up in order to troll me. Specifically, you are trying to annoy me because I pointed out that Red Fury is an anti-Semite. Instead of even addressing whether or not Red is a racist, you’re simply trolling me for stating the fact that he is. Now, as you seem to be feigning stupidity for some reason, I’m not saying that you’ve turned into a spastic retard because Red is a racist and I pointed it out, but because you’ve evidently got a few verbal triggers that turn you into a raving asshole and words like “bigot” or “racist” make you lose your mind, even if they’re accurate.
Given that you’ve lied several times in this post, alone, it’s rather retarded of you to assume I’d take you at your word. You’re trolling me because you’ve decided that whenever I call a racist a racist, or a liar a liar, or a troll a troll, that you’ll troll me. And you don’t even pretend to show that I’m wrong for using those labels, you just try to pick a fight due to the simple fact that I use them. That’s the long and the short of it.
You’re also lying on this point, as even after repeated challenges, you cannot show a single thing that I’m wrong about. So your bullshit about “making a persuasive point” is negated by the fact that you can’t, or won’t, show a single argument on the subject of Israel that I’ve made that is logically or factually lacking. You’re just trolling.
This is, of course, just another bit of your trolling. You want to lie and claim that you don’t care whether or not my claims are accurate, and then you want to claim that they’re inaccurate and I don’t even know what the words mean, and then you use an analogy comparing the factual claims I make (like Red is a racist, which you’re still ignoring in order to troll me) to a lunatic saying that Starbucks is fascist. You want to claim that you don’t know or care whether or not my claims are accurate, then you want to claim that they’re inaccurate, then you want to claim that they’re so inaccurate they’re insane. The question, of course, being were you lying and trolling then or are you lying and trolling now?
I suppose, to be fair, you might’ve been lying and trolling in both cases.
In any case, on the subject of your spastic fits, there are several possibilities. I can be right and a small handful of people on the Dope make a habit of lying and trolling, and a few bigots and racists gravitate to subjects where they get to attack Jews and/or Israel. I can be wrong in some cases, and right in others. I can be wrong in all of them. I might use those words which flip your switch and send you into a tard rage so often because, go figure, subjects that have to do with Jews and the Jewish state might just attract people who have a problem with Jews or who put ideology ahead of honesty and militant, willful ignorance ahead of all that boring prerequisite learning and fact checking.
But in order to show that I’m wrong you, ya know, have to show that I’m wrong. You’ve got no interest in that, at all.
You’re just trolling.
Actually, if we were going to use an accurate analogy, it’d be something like:
You walk into a Starbucks and find a barista making people coffees. You notice that each time he takes an order, he asks “what kind of coffee do you want?”
You then start spazzing out and screaming “Coffee, coffee, coffee! You keep saying the word coffee!”
The barista, somewhat taken aback as you don’t look like a crazy person, says “Sir, you seem to be having a problem. Do you not understand what coffee is? Are you, perhaps, denying that what I’m serving to people is coffee?”
You start vomiting on yourself and screaming “I don’t care if it’s true or not. You’re using the word coffee. Coffee. Coffeeeee!!!”
The barista, patience expended, says “You seem to be having some sort of fit, or you know full well that this is a coffee bar and you’re just trying to pick a fight. You’re either an asshole or a crazy person, and if you don’t leave I’m calling the police.”
At which point you drop your pants, take a shit in your own hand, and start breaking piece o’ turd off and hurling them at him while screaming “You keep saying the word coffee!!!”
Happy trolling, bitch.
Find a new hobby.
**Giraffe **trolling. As likely as Dennis Kucinich raping Chuck Norris.
so, in summing up.
Except for **FinnAgain **and anyone who agrees with him 100%,
**EVERYONE **is a liar
**EVERYONE **is an anti-semite
**EVERYONE **is a troll
**EVERYONE **is retarded
**EVERYONE **is a racist
is that about it?
Oh, and this nugget is my favorite.
From **FinnAgain’s **rant posting above:
What?
Dude, you could post something a thousand times. If it’s bullshit at read number 1, it’s bullshit at read number 1000. Quoting yourself makes you look psychotic. For the rest of us, it just makes for more scrolling.
or, to help you
+1
The first rule of Redundant Tautology Club is the first rule of Redundant Tautology Club, and is the first rule of Redundant Tautology Club.
Once again, Frothy, you are coming across as a delusional maniac.
Oh, and while we’re at it…
+1 
You seem to have picked up the pattern of this trolling little pileon, down to lying about what I’ve said while complaining about me pointing out when people are lying. Good for you.
Of course, as you’re just trolling, you too haven’t shown I was wrong about anything. Naturally, you’re also lying in order to troll on a whole bunch of points, like how I only called Red an anti-Semite for saying anti-Semitic stuff, but “everybody” who disagrees with me is an anti-Semite. It’d a good clue that you’re trolling when you’re using such obvious lies to base your insults on.
Same trolling pattern. What’re the odds?
You, of course, didn’t even attempt to show it was bullshit. Because it wasn’t. Leander was being an asshole because he’s a willfully ignorant idiot who has a bad habit of shitting up GD threads on the middle east and nurses a big ol’ grudge because on more than one occasion I’ve pointed out that he’s an ignorant idiot and dismantled his arguments (with actual factual rebuttals, not trolling. What a concept!). While leander was spewing about how awful I was, I pointed out that he was just flailing and couldn’t actually gainsay anything I’d said. Instead of actually showing how wrong I was about, well, anything at all, he just kept up his refrain “crazy crazy crazy!!!”
As he continued spewing, I re-quoted the original post while challenging him, again, to actually show how I was wrong about anything. He continued spewing. It wasn’t bullshit then, it’s not bullshit now. But your ‘me too, me too!’ joining in with the trolling is cute. Naturally, as you’ve decided to troll some and be part of the crowd, the fact that leander was acting like a whiny impotent bitch who couldn’t must a single factual refutation is insignificant compared to the fact that I added a “+1” the third time I challenged him to actually show how I was wrong about anything rather than just flaming like a moron.
Have you considered not trolling?
Edit: leander, I see you crawled out from under your rock. Found any of those factual refutations yet? No?
Don’t worry, the trolls have got your back and won’t take you to task for it, they’re in pileon mode.
Actually, unlike most people in this thread, I don’t really know you or your posting style, as I rarely visit the Pit or GD. Once in a great while, I’ll go to the pit and read a thread for entertainment purposes, rarely making it beyond 2 pages before being bored. Your ravings kept me reading. I was trying to help you by pointing out to you how batshit crazy you sound to the general board reader.
Even if what you say is true, it is almost impossible to give you the benefit of the doubt because of your posting style.
But you miss that. Instead you go off the deep end, feverishly cranking out so much crap, it’s impossible to weed through it.
You sound so unstable; I’d suggest you stop taking your new medication until speaking to your doctor. Try to get some sleep. If that fails, at the bare minimum, turn your computer off, dude. Read a book. Play a video game. Paint.
or, if you can’t resist and must stay on-line, try to write one posting without the words (or any variants of the words) “troll”, “anti-semite”, and “liar”.
I think you should try!
+100
(just to keep me from coming back to this thread for a while)
Comedy setup…
…Comedy spike!
See, if you’re going to set yourself up as Captain Honesty being persecuted by liars, it’s harder to keep the moral high ground if you then go on to make strong assertive statements about other people’s motivations that have no basis in fact.
No, this is a terrible analogy. My analogy was attempting to illustrate that a person who may have a perfectly valid position accomplishes nothing if their attempts to communicate it are bizarre and off-putting, a concept you seem incapable of understanding. What made it an analogy was the fact that I was not saying you are a crazy homeless person or that your ideas are insane, merely that the situations both highlight how people tend to quickly stop listening to the substance of someone’s points if they adopt an ineffective method of sharing them. And if you could step outside of the current argument and put yourself in the shoes of someone being approached in an off-putting way, maybe you’d see why everyone calls you Foamy.
Your analogy on the other hand was a tedious rehashing of your assertion that my problem with you is irrational anger at your mere use of certain words, like bigot or liar, such that I fly into a senseless rage upon the very mention of them. I was already quite clear that you thought that so the analogy didn’t amplify anything, it just restated something you’ve said several times before. And was rather derivative and unoriginal, truth be told.
+1
You do realize that your posts don’t disappear, right?
Identify what, exactly, if anything, is factually incorrect about my first post in this thread, the one that sent you from zero to berserk in no time flat. If your dodge is that it was “off-putting”, then identify the specific claim that was “off-putting” and could have been expressed differently (expressed, not shut up by your rage), instead of simply trolling me to shut up about certain things. If you can’t do that, then rather obviously you’re still trolling and the issue wasn’t any “off-puttingness” but the fact that you flip out when assertions are made by me, as long as they have your trigger words in them.
Tell you what, disprove my claims, show anywhere at all that you’ve actually rebutted the substance of my accusations rather than trying to pick a fight simply because I made them. Or suggest a way that I could have pointed out the fact that Red is an anti-Semite in a way that wouldn’t have tripped your Freak Out! button. Do tell, what would the acceptable and ‘non-off-putting’ way have been to have pointed out the fact that Red is an anti-Semite. How about the fact that he’s a liar, is that fact “off-putting” too? (Not that you’re trying to troll me to shut down certain words or accusations, it just looks that way)
Should be pretty easy for you, seeing as how wrong I am and you’re not really trolling and simply flipping out over the use of certain words, such that if I call an anti-Semite like Red, an anti-Semite, you’ll try to jump my shit. You’re not really going to freak out any time I point out that someone who’s a racist, is a racist.
Because it would be acceptable to you to point out that someone is anti-Semitic, or bigoted, or lying, or trolling in [Circumstance X] with [Phrasing Y].
Can you even identify what those circumstances and phrases are?
Someone makes a true statement, you troll them and flip out, trying to give them grief while flinging shit. Seems like a pretty good analogy.
There’s no actual reason why pointing out that a racist is a racist is any more “off-putting” than pointing out that coffee is coffee.
And no shit it was “derivative”. I pointedly changed your analogy so that it actually had something to do with reality; it was calling a thing what it is, rather than calling unfair labor practices “fascism”.
Your comparison was that someone was claiming that Starbucks was “fascist” because of “unfair trading policies with Guatemala”. What I’ve actually done is, for example, said that Red is an anti-Semite for saying anti-Semitic stuff (something you still haven’t touched on, just trolled me for saying).
What is your acceptable ‘non-off-putting’ way to call an anti-Semite an anti-Semite… that wouldn’t send you off the deep end?
An accurate analogy would be something like:
A man walks into a meeting of the American Fascist Movement and says “you guys are fascists”.
Then a guy, secure in his anonymity, starts screaming “Fascist, fascist, you said the word fascist! You’re acting like a crazy person! You’re so off-putting! All the members of the AFM say you’re frothing at the mouth, don’t you get it?!?”
Still lying, I see. I’d really like it if you’d stop that.
A small coterie of assholes, most of whom have been shown to be willfully ignorant partisan hacks who nurse grudges from numerous GD threads where they were shown to be wilfully ignorant and/or dishonest, use that ever-so-witty bit because they can’t actually refute when I’ve shown what their behavior is, so they can only personally attack me. Just like Leander, who complains endlessly about how crazy I am, but can’t find one single “crazy” exchange in GD where I wasn’t correct. Should be trivially easy. If I alleged that someone was an irrational, even crazy, debater in GD? I could certainly cite an example and show how wrong they were being. Otherwise, all it means is “Yah, he was right and proved that I was wrong but, erm… crazy, mean, bad!!!”
It’s a slur used to defend the fact that their own behavior brings down valid criticism. It is, in a very real sense, baiting. Just like people who lie in a post, preface it with “and gee look, Finn is so kreeeezy that he says people are lying!” People who are dishonest, willfully ignorant, racist and/or bigoted have their “and gee look, Finn is so kreeeezy that he objects to people who are dishonest, willfully ignorant, racist and/or bigoted.”
And with the help of trolling like yours, the focus gets shifted from the fact that one of the coterie is a racist or is being dishonest or what have you, to the wild crazy and totally off-putting… facts.
Care to, finally, address why it’s beyond the pale to point out that it’s racist for someone to name everybody in the US government that they can think of, whose names sound Jewish to them, and accuse them all of a lack of patriotism and dual loyalty? Care to state what ‘acceptable’ way you’d graciously allow? Otherwise it’s pretty clear that you’re just trolling to try to shout me down, just like someone freaking out at the mention of Driving While Black. “DWB, DWB, DWB! He said DWB!! It’s so off-putting!!!”
Frothy, the problem is that no one really knows what the fuck you’re going on about because you put up these ridiculous Walls of Texts (<- tm yet?) and you go on and on like a little bitch about og knows what.
Now, even your supporters have given up on you. You really are that crazy homeless person shouting about radars and UFOs whilst living off of dog food in the park.
May I ask, are you seeking any professional help for your mental illness? Seriously, there is something not right about you.
Here:
+1mil
Actually, you keep reposting your idiot anger. You’re too stupid to realize that your reposting of “grrr, you stupid!” doesn’t make any point other than that you’re claiming I’m bad but can’t seem to find a single example or argument to back that up other than your idiot spew itself.
On the other hand…
See, the fact that you’ve been dodging that shows that for post after post after post now, you’ve been ignoring providing even the basest support other than shrieking “crazy crazy crazy!” and you still can’t show how I’ve been significantly wrong, about anything. I know, folks like Stink Fish will troll about how simply pointing out that you can’t and won’t actually point out a single thing that I’m actually wrong about is insane, simply loony. But I’m not much perturbed by the idiocy of trolls.
But as the facts show, for post after post after post, you’ve been unable to show a single thing I’m actually wrong about. Yes, even though the trolls would prefer to focus on the fact that I’ve been repeating that all you’re doing is spewing empty insults instead of the fact that all you’re doing is spewing empty insults and can’t gainsay a single thing I’ve said. Yes, and you’re so stupid that you’ve actually claimed that a few sentences is too much for you and you lack the basic intellect required to comprehend a point after it won’t fit on the side of a cereal box.
So any time now, feel free to show what I’m actually wrong about.
Don’t worry, if you don’t, the trolls will get your back.